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I would love a hybrid like this 2016 diesel Evoque which gets 68 mpg

Discussion in 'Diesels' started by jameskatt, Feb 23, 2015.

  1. jameskatt

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    I note that the press release based article claimed "68 MPG" but that is not a realistic number. Looking at the 2015 Evoke at the EPA web site:
    • 21 MPG - city
    • 30 MPG - highway
    To see a 2.25 multiplier of highway mileage, 68/30, without either cutting down the cross section or some aerodynamic magic, I don't see it. As for city mileage, only full hybrids have better city than highway mileage but not by a factor of three.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Lexus has the NX300h, for me that's enough to completely ignore the Equivoque. :D
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Kinda glad this showed up in the Diesel forum given the claimed mileage.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    I'm betting that it's 68 mpg UK tested under the EU testing and will be as relevant as the Ampera/Volt rated of 134 mpg UK.

    Being a plug in it all depends on the proportion of EV running.

    But the diesels do get pretty good mpg's on their own in real world driving and the latest ones sold this year are Euro 6 compliant, so virtually the same as CA emission levels.
     
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    Toyota are missing out on the fuel economy benefit, but mainly the massive torque increase from diesel. I'm no fan of diesel in a car, but in a pickup they're ideal. Strong, loads of torque and great fuel economy (despite the fuel being more expensive in some places).
     
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    Expensive.....and built to stay that way.

    It's a good looking baby-ute, but the gas models are rather spendy here in the US ($45,000) and I'm betting that the diesel model will go for $55+
    if and when they're offered in the US.

    No thanks.
     
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    Diesel is so much more expensive here in the US that buying a diesel in the US makes no sense financially. The only reason to buy one is the torque but get ready to pay at the pump for that torque.
     
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    According to the linked article...



    Cummins has a Tier 2 Bin 2 2.8 liter light truck diesel engine ready for production (possibly will be used in Nissan Frontier?). That's equivalent to Tier 3 Bin 30, which means that it not only would meet 2019 emission requirements, it would meet requirements through 2025. T3B30 will be the required fleet average in 2025.

    Furthermore, BMW currently has a LDT diesel engine that technically meets T2B2 (X3 xDrive28d). The certified emissions of the 2015 X3 28d are lower across-the-board than the 2015 2.7 liter Tacoma.
     
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    Just remember that the Prius is rated 72 to 76 mpg on that scale.
     
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    don't say for all US. 1st, diesel fuel is cheaper than premium (required by Land Rover Evoque above) in many states, and 2nd it is the same price as regular in California.
     
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    Not sure about the UK gal, it is definitely a Euro test result. Which is as demanding as the Japanese test cycle that nets the Prius 70+mpg.
    On the other hand, the EPA window sticker numbers tend to be about 10% lower than reported averages for diesel.

    The upcoming tier 3 regulations might increase the cost of diesel emission equipment, but many vehicles available now are being certified to it. Can't do that yet for gasoline ones, because it requires ultra low sulfur gas that will be phased in starting 2017. Any bets on what the price of gas will do because of that?
     
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