I leased it. I love it. I’ll leave it.

585 kWh with 15% charging loss is 20 gallon equivalent.

With that you (your wife) saved 48 gallons. That is a good trade.

FYI, CAFE uses the unadjusted MPG straight from the dyno. Prius gets 71 MPG so it already surpassed the 2025 goal.

 

I agree with you that a PIP with longer electric range would be the dream eco car at this point. What is also necessary is a quicker charge port, such as CHAdeMO, and the accessibility of these charge stations.

 

• I'll continue to maximize my EV mileage, but probably less so in HV mode and rely on my Prius to "do it's thing". Time is money.

• I feel exactly the same way. I'm smitten and want more. Sooner, rather than later. But. I'll wait for the next Toyota Plug In. No desire for a Telsa, Volt 2, etc, just more technical advances and greater EV range at a Toyota price.

Thanks for your insight and excellent testimonial.

 

For some people the current PiP has the exact sort of range they need. Remember that you only want to get that range which you can use very regularly. If you can't use it all, you've wasted money in several different ways.

 

Very nice write-up.

One correction though: The 2025 CAFE standard of 54.5 mpg is not the window sticker EPA. That will be ~ 35 mpg

 

The current PIP range is perfect for my one way work commute, plus I charge at work. So, most work days I drive 100% EV. Still, a year round 35-40 mile (reliable) EV range would work best (for now) for other local travels. I would pay more for a future factory extended EV option if ever available.

 

Nice write up from the OP

 

dont get the topic title?

I leased it. I love it. I’ll leave it.


i was expecting something in the line of that your going to sell it?

 

The OP said: "This has been a great experience so far, however, I will turn it in as fast as I can when the lease expires in two years."

 

to get a new one as fast as possible?

 

Don't feel bad at all. After a 5,200 mile vacation trip, I only had a 15% EV ratio and a 50 mpg computer average (62 lifetime)! If you have a short commute that is all electric and then do a couple of longer weekend runs, the ratio is not going to be high. These people with high EV ratios must either never go anywhere or use another car when they do!

The only gliding I ever do is when I know backing off the acceleratior won't slow me down. Some people here also seem to be exaggerating the PIP benefit for longer trips. My mileage is up 4 to 6 mpgs, but at least 3 of that is just down to the changing from the 17 inch to 15 inch wheels. If you actually go the 75 mph speed limit out west, the mileage is not going to be great, unless you are always running downhill!

And I absolutely agree with you regarding moving on at the end of your lease. Of course, since the PIP is so much like a normal Prius, there's no great harm in buying either, as long as you get a deal and don't pay too much if any of the sticker premium.

 

I think OP meant to get the next generation PIP as fast as possible.

 

Which is why we need two kWh choices for the PiP.

Tesla has the 60 kWh and 85 kWh batteries as choices.

For the PiP it'd be nice to have 4.4 kWh and 8.8 kWh. Just charge extra for the 8.8 kWh option.

8.8 kWh would roughly double the EV range and would still be able to charge in less than 8 hours on L1.

 

+1

 

From a pure efficiency stand point, you only want to get the very smallest battery size adequate to your needs that you can use on a very regular basis. If you only need more than 15 miles a few times per week, than you don't need any larger battery than what the PiP currently offers.

 

Only in theory. I would like enough battery range to travel to & from work without charging, plus a little extra. As stated 35-40 miles winter range would work for me. No one here is complaining about having too much PIP EV range.

 

Sounds like you should have bought a Volt.

 

As nice as I can say it, don't assume. I'm not the only PIP owner on PriusChat wanting more EV range. I have no desire for a Volt, or a all EV Leaf, or high dollar Telsa. I'll patiently wait for the 4th generation Prius/PIP and see what available at that time. I bought a Toyota Prius for a reason.

 

I agree with those who wish for longer EV range while my driving is only 25 % is in EV I still wish I had at lest 25-30 miles per charge. A Volt after EV doesnt get the 55 -60 MPG that I get on my twice weekly drive to my shore house.