Hybrid XLE headaches...

that's a bummer, sorry to hear it. do you have a lemon law? i think here, it's 3 times without being able to repair.

 

Insist they put a new batter (12V) in the car, if they won't call toyota and raise hell, and tell them you have already posted the problem on the internet. I'm thinking about a Camry hybrid and I'm gonna follow this thread closely.

 

same here, i'm going to see how they respond before making our decision.

 

They need to give you a brand new fully charged 12v battery.

 

if you were leaving it on, the car would be at you, it's pretty hard to ignore, especially over and over again.

 

I don't think there is a phantom load draining the 12v battery. After it drained the first time, you probably didn't have enough time/miles driven to recharge it. So, the next morning it drained again.

 

i wonder how well the camry battery stands up to being drained? might be the whole problem. btw, if you leave it running, won't it drain the traction battery and run the engine repeatedly until it runs out of gas?

 

Leaving it on for an hour or so should be enough. The traction battery will recharge the 12v. If it runs low, the gas engine will fire up.

Not sure how long the OP's regular commute.

 

I agree with usbseawolf2000. The battery is shot. They simply allowed it to be drained too many times and it lost capacity so even putting it on a charger is likely not enough. I doubt there is anything else wrong with the car. Dealers are notorious for leaving accessories on without the engine running while showing off a car. They act like they don't know that repeated discharges reduces battery capacity.

Simply bitch them out until they replace the battery with a new one. Use a Sharpie pen to make a small mark in an inconspicuous area onthe battery to ensure they really replace it.

 

Every car you own or purchase won't start...you're cursed and this doesn't fall under lemon law.

 

You know F8l, I gotta agree once again with you on this one. The part about making the battery. I do it all the time, wheels, etc. It is really sad when you have to make a mark to satisfy yourself the problem has been addressed and corrected!
How's the PIP running, I met Dianne last week, she mentioned it was hard to keep you on the ground, you were so ready for the PIP!

 

I don'thave a PIP, my friend. Too rich for my blood. Even if I could afford it the vehicle would be fairly useless on my 48mile (one way) commute. So are you getting one soon? Make sure and bring a battery tester with you! lol

 

We have observed numerous occasions where the dealer diagnosed a 12v battery and claimed it was healthy yet non-dealer testing showed the battery to exhibit reduced capacity and low voltage < 12.2v. With a brand new car like that I would throw a fit until they agreed to replace the battery. If the car continues to die then you beginto build your case for a lemon law claim.

 

I cannot see the voltage test being the absolute indicator of battery condition. If it was, then Midtronics testers would not be the only acceptable testing method for warranty claims.

If the tester shows the battery to be fine, then it is. The battery is likely being drained by something in the car.

MB860 ?

 

It's called test by proxy indicators.

Can you explain why those Prius owners who were told there batteries we're fine by a dealership suddenly had their problems disappear when they replaced the battery?

The fact is, the car is brand new and now is the time to argue a claim. You know as well as I do how shady dealerships are so there is no way of knowing if they truly test the battery properly or not.

 

Sorry 'bout that. Somehow I got the impression you did the PIP thing! After reading reading your tag, got it.
My wife just ordered a HyCam XLE through Dianne, she's getting excited! Me, I am gonna keep the Gen II for at least 4 more years, then look at all electrics!
Battery testers, I got several, I'm covered!
Stay healthy, you nut!