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Honest question: are US movies for real with kids having cars?

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  1. R-P

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    I just saw the movie Project Almanac, where the HV battery of a Prius (III) plays an important role. The car is owned by a 17 year old or so.

    It got me (once again) thinking if US movies are for real. (Obviously they are not, but read on to see what I mean)

    How common are cars among 16-20 year old kids in the real world in the US? And what kind of cars are they?

    Is it normal for 'kids' to drive a Prius or similar priced car of <5years old? And how are these cars payed for? Probably on payment plans, but there must come a time to pay back all those creditcard debts, car-loans, etc.

    I know taxes on cars are a lot less, road tax is less, gasoline is way less, but still, a somewhat decent car often driven in movies costs 10k$. How can any kid afford this unless his dad makes >100k$ a year?

    Am I missing something? Is it just completely different priorities? I dread being in debt with anyone. We are with our house, and that's it. I'd never buy a car I couldn't pay then and there. Is that the difference?
     
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    very common to get a car when you get your license in my experience. you need it to get a job, unless your parents have an extra.
    i don't know anyone driving a prius, but i live in a pretty small world.

    that being said, my own 3 children didn't get cars until they were out of college, and working or in grad school. but we had 3 cars for my wife and i. my sons first car was my wife's 2005 camry, he paid us $5,000. in 2008. my oldest daughter bought a '96 camry in 2003 for $6,000., and my youngest daughter bought my 2004 prius in 2008 for $12,000 i think.

    everyone has a different situation, but i'm sure there are plenty of 16-20 year olds with $10,000. cars.
    yes, most likely paid for by their parents.

    and yes, it is the movies.:p
     
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    I'm sure things are different today, but a million years ago on my sixteenth birthday, I passed my driver's exam that very day, and bought my dad's old clunker with money I'd saved working after school. My dad made it clear that I would have to pay for everything, and the minute I couldn't, or my school grades started to suffer, then the car would be taken away. Needless to say I managed to keep up my end of the agreement.
     
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    one thing that's changed is, you can't really keep an old clunker in repair anymore.
     
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    I work at a major university. If you look at my location you can probably figure it out.

    Here it is very normal for a kid to be driving a brand new Audi or other high end car. Lamborghinis and Ferraris are not even unusual here.
     
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    It's quite common for people to replace cars every 5-7 years here, and it's not uncommon for the old car to be handed down to kids, as far as middle-class and above go. (Upper-class, that's where you get into the "buy a luxury car just for your kid" thing.)

    That said, outside of urban areas, it's common for all classes to have a car, simply because it's required to participate in society. It might be an incredibly unsafe, polluting, unreliable car, but it'll be a car of some sort. (My first three cars were completely unreliable 20+ year old beaters that I bought with my own money...)
     
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    First car daddy bought me at age16 for $800. I wrecked it about a year later -- well it was not a total -- just a pretty crumpled fender, but I was going away to college in a month anyway, so Dad sold it for $500.

    Went off to college, bought my next car myself. A 1962 Ford Custom for $100. It ran and did not look too bad. It had been owned since new by an elderly couple. I sold it about a year later for $100.

    As bhtoo*** wrote, lots and lots of American kids have cars of their own in high school, but the number may be going down. I read a news article a few years ago that IIRC, said that American teens have started delaying or even not getting driver licenses because they had no interest in driving.

    BTW, typing and posting is again a major pain. I will refrain from visiting the forum for a few weeks. Not that I expect any improvement.
     
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    what is customary in the netherlands?
     
  9. bhtooefr

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    Bicycle is my understanding, because of suburban and urban design to prioritize cycle transport, and then mass transit for inter-city travel.
     
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    My Prius was about 12000$ too... but I was 40 when buying it (second car, first is an ex-police Volvo V70 bought for about the same, referred to in two-and-a-half-men as Alan's crappy car (might be an S60, same car but sedan instead of estate))

    I planned on buying my first car when I was 19 with my brother when in university, and to cover cost we would rent it out. The government at that time decided to give all students a public transport pass (and subtract an amount from the government grant that everyone gets so as to give all citizens a chance to study). This ruined our plans. On a side-note: the government was surprised that students, who could nowhu use public transport 24/7 without extra cost, used it a lot more than before this pass... go figure... ;) (it even had the public transport equivalent of bike messengers companies popping up, delivering packages all over the country with virtually no transportationcost).

    This delayed me getting mu first car (1200$) until I was almost 30 when I moved in with my future wife. We did both have a motorcycle (200$ and 800$) by then for transport.

    People who go to university in general will get a car years later than working people of the same age, simply because they can't afford it.

    Yes, our public transport is better and more frequent (and I travelled some 20,000 miles with public transport in the US, so I can compare).
    But there are a lot of communities in the US where you *could* get by without a car couldn't you? Are all university students living >10miles from their classrooms?

    Even if you could buy cars for $200, the additional costs would ruin it. My father in law bought a Ford V6 for 500$ cause he needed something quickly, roadtax was almost 1000$ a year, mandatory yearly government test for roadworthyness is ~50$, and the cost to pass it was probably 200-500$ a year in the 3 years he ran it. And due to the large engine (2.5liter is pretty big here), fuelcost was about 0.25$ per km or 0.15$/mile.
    But some large jacked-up V8 pick-up would not be much less in fuelcost in the US I guess.

    So conclusion is that movies aren't necessarily that far off the reality and I still don't fully understand how people in the US can afford it.
     
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    It all depends on your mindset and priorities. There are a lot of people that live paycheck to paycheck and any unexpected expense is serious.

    The joke was "How can you tell the difference between the student and faculty lots?" The cars are nicer & newer in the student lot.

    Some got new cars as graduation presents. Some drove beaters older than they were. I had to walk.

    The neighbor graduated high school. I believe his used car was passed down through the family but the car sits. Having a license doesn't mean you drive (much).
     
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    unless you live near the city, cars are the only option in a lot of places. i had to have a car in college, it was a 6 or 7 mile commute, and a lot of roads around the boston area are narrow and dangerous. and then, there's winter to consider.
    but back in those days, i was able to buy a used mgb, and pay for college with a summer and part time year round job. times have changed.:rolleyes:
     
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    THis is all very interesting. I guess it is far easier, and cheaper to interconnect cities in European countries, than the USA, because well the whole of Europe is about as big as the USA
     
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    It's worth noting that even if you live on campus, if you want to do anything outside of the immediate campus area, you basically need a car in many areas.

    And, registration tends to be much cheaper here, many states don't even have inspections, maintenance simply doesn't happen for a lot of people, our powertrain preferences in this country result in much lower engine maintenance requirements (even if fuel consumption is higher as a result), and fuel is much cheaper.
     
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    Anyone notice, on US made TV and movies, very often nobody's using seat belts? Including cops, kids, families. Not always, but it's very prevalent, like cinematic license.
     
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    that's how i got in the bad habit. managed not to pick up smoking though.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Stay away from video games. Just in case.
     
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    will do. are they playing them while driving in movies?
     
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    There's a real uptick in smoking on the screen. Hey, product placement. :whistle:
     
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    Interesting. At my first year of uni I didn't have a car. As the uni wasn't in a major city (Most universities are) it took three trains to get there.

    One from my town > next big city
    One from that city > bigger city
    One from that city > the university town

    Ordinarily, for most people it would take about two trains I guess, but from the cities the trains come quite often really. In Sheffield, Manchester, and the entirity of the south of England, transport is amazingly good, that you don't necessarily actually NEED a car. Cars are however often a lot cheaper in the fuel, and often more reliable. Our train prices are really expensive, owing to the fact that they're often owned by foreign companies, who are national companies in their own country ie: our train prices subsidise French train travel, which is pretty annoying as we pay through the roof.. I now use "blablacar" if I'm without my car and I need to get to say a city about 60 miles away from me or further

    For the nearest city, yes the train is more expensive, however the parking costs mean that it's just not worth going by car. Often you've not only got the cost of the parking but also actually being able to find a damn place in the cities..At the end of the day, we are 65 million people on a small island whilst you're about 300 million people, in a country that's about the size of Europe
     
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