1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Help with Nav DVD

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Audio and Electronics' started by mycotopian, Nov 22, 2011.

  1. mycotopian

    mycotopian New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2010
    14
    0
    0
    Location:
    USA
    Vehicle:
    2009 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Hey folks,

    I am hoping for some quick input. I have a 2009 Prius that has been running the U33 ver 8.1 DVD since new. I bought a new dvd online and it is a U92 ver 10.1. When I load the disc and start the car it says it is unable to read the disc. I tested the disc at in the sellers 2011 prius and it worked no problems so I know the disc is good. They are both dual layer discs so what am I missing?


    Are gen 3 dvd's not compatible with gen 2? or is there a step I can take to get the disc to work?

    Here is a pic of what I've got

    [​IMG]
     
    #1 mycotopian, Nov 22, 2011
  2. 2k1Toaster

    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2010
    6,035
    3,855
    0
    Location:
    Rocky Mountains
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    The bootloader and firmware load sections are different. You need to make a "hybrid" disk. Since you have both it should be easier, but still a PITA.

    Take the bootloader and all boot data from the "old" disk, and then all the map data from the new disk. Combine the binaries and burn as an image onto a DVD+R DL at a low speed.
     
    #2 2k1Toaster, Nov 22, 2011
  3. mycotopian

    mycotopian New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2010
    14
    0
    0
    Location:
    USA
    Vehicle:
    2009 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Okay, I think I can handle that. Would you happen to have any links with more detail on to make a hybrid disc?
     
    #3 mycotopian, Nov 22, 2011
  4. 2k1Toaster

    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2010
    6,035
    3,855
    0
    Location:
    Rocky Mountains
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    Not currently as I am away from my PC, but googling Toyota hybrid nav disk or something similar should work. Also substitute "Lexus" or "Denso" for "Toyota". The last time I did this was for a Gen4.1 nav disk with Gen 5 maps for a Lexus RX. Worked, but really painful and I am a CE/EE.
     
    #4 2k1Toaster, Nov 23, 2011
  5. jdcollins5

    jdcollins5 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2009
    5,131
    1,340
    0
    Location:
    Wilmington, NC
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    III
    The Gen III Prius have a Gen 6 Nav unit and requires the Gen 6 DVD. Your 2009 should be a Gen 5 Nav unit and requires the Gen 5 DVD.

    Any chance you can return the DVD to the online seller and replace it with the Gen 5 DVD? That seems to be the easiest way if possible.
     
    #5 jdcollins5, Nov 23, 2011
  6. djras

    djras New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2011
    32
    2
    0
    Location:
    Victorville, CA
    Vehicle:
    2009 Prius
    Model:
    II
    Before you do much else,
    Try unplugging the Nav unit, wait a few seconds, then plug it back in. This will force it to re-read the bootloader data.
     
    #6 djras, Nov 23, 2011
  7. mycotopian

    mycotopian New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2010
    14
    0
    0
    Location:
    USA
    Vehicle:
    2009 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    I found a walk through on another site that was helpful in outlining how to burn the disc properly.

    http://www.tundrasolutions.com/foru...e/199387-toyota-sienna-lexus-es350-hybrid-v9/

    But it is for swapping the Loading.kwi file to an an override feature. Do you know the particular files I need to replace on the new disc with ones from my old disc? I guess we need to know which files will let the disc pass the nav systems test when checking the disc.
     
    #7 mycotopian, Nov 23, 2011
  8. mycotopian

    mycotopian New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2010
    14
    0
    0
    Location:
    USA
    Vehicle:
    2009 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Also has anyone here successfully used a burned navigation in a 2009 Prius? I am reading that the gen5 dvd drives have issues reading burned discs.
     
    #8 mycotopian, Nov 23, 2011
  9. alanh

    alanh Active Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2007
    1,175
    99
    0
    Location:
    Phoenix, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    I have a 2007 Prius (Gen 5) and was able to use burned DVDs with the older discs, so I don't think it's the drive. I think there's some sort of copy protection in the newer discs.

    Its possible the older firmware doesn't do the check, so a hybrid disc might work.
     
    #9 alanh, Nov 23, 2011
  10. mycotopian

    mycotopian New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2010
    14
    0
    0
    Location:
    USA
    Vehicle:
    2009 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Well I had an old iso laying around "464210-1741.iso" I tried burning this on Verbatim DL with the proper book type. It loaded initially but then switched to " Unable to read data Check if Map DVD is correct"

    Does this mean my drive is just not going to read burned discs?
     
    #10 mycotopian, Nov 27, 2011
  11. ursle

    ursle Gas miser

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2006
    1,049
    192
    0
    Location:
    NH
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    Well, it would've been the first successfully burned DVD for a gen 2 prius, if you keep at it and it works, bully for you and I'll buy a copy;)
     
    #11 ursle, Nov 27, 2011
  12. straus

    straus Junior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2011
    8
    0
    0
    Location:
    Russia, Siberia
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    In addition to the proper book type, DL disk must have the proper Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), burned discs have Opposite Track Path (OTP) and you can't change it. The solution is to split original disk in two single layer discs.
     
    #12 straus, Dec 23, 2011
(You must log in or sign up to post here.)