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Do all dealers know in advance what they are getting?

Discussion in 'Dealers & Pricing' started by Wiyosaya, May 3, 2006.

  1. Wiyosaya

    Wiyosaya Member

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    From what I have seen on this and other Prius sites, dealers seem to know well in advance what they are getting. Do all dealers know in advance what they are getting, and if so, how far in advance do they know?

    The dealer that I am working with does not seem to know what they are getting for this month, and this is making me wonder whether this is a stall tactic. I'm looking for a package that is not normally shipped to my area, and the dealer claims that Toyota may be changing the regional package allocations, however, the dealer wants to be sure what they are getting and is asking me to wait until they know for sure.

    So, what does this sound like? Does it sound legit, or does it sound like the dealer is just trying to keep me from going elsewhere including to an area where Toyota ships the package that I want?

    Thanks.
     
  2. mssmith95

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wiyosaya @ May 3 2006, 07:41 PM) [snapback]249477[/snapback]</div>

    Well, both of your statements are correct. My information is based on what the fleet manager (I am one of the dealer's vendors) told me.

    Dealers do know their allocation numbers in advance (how many vehicles they can ask for). However, the exact vehicles are assigned once a week from some regional center. Now this is obviously different if a vehicle is special ordered.

    Allocation is related to how many Hybrids they have sold in the past. So a larger dealer may or may not have more allocation...it just depends on their sales figures. For example, my local dealer, has 5x the allocation of the largest Toyota dealer in the area because they sold a fleet of Prius to the City. However, the dealers do not have to actually take delivery on all of their allocation.

    I am also unsure to how they actually get to choose which colors/packages...this may rotate between dealers in some order, or it may be random.

    All I know is that even though my local dealer had much better allocation, they could never get me the vehicle I wanted...and the larger dealer was able to get my name on one within a month.

    Another interesting thing I found out is that many dealers look for the best deal and will actually bypass someone who has been waiting longer for someone willing to pay more...or someone with a better trade deal. That part really sucks...but there is no way to actually know if they are doing this to you...unless you know the fleet manager!
     
  3. Wiyosaya

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mssmith95 @ May 3 2006, 10:57 PM) [snapback]249489[/snapback]</div>
    Interesting. I just found this http://priuschat.com/index.php?showtopic=1...l=toyota+region and it seems to indicate that combinations are independently orderable regardless of region - which does not seem correct given that others report that only certain combinations are available for their area.

    I was contacted this morning by my local dealer and I was told that the interior/exterior color combination I would like is not being shipped to this area as well as the package that I would like not being shipped to this area either. :( Well, now to decide whether it is worth it to go to another region of the country to get what I want.

    IMHO, even with demand as it is, it would seem like it would be good business to fill orders with what the customer wants rather than what is being shipped to the area (yes, you can have your Prius if you like Pink :angry: ). It is not like there are an infinite number of permutations of options that one could choose that would make it impossible to fill each individual order. When gas prices were lower, some dealers had Prii on their lots that might have been sold far more quickly if they were shipped to other dealers that actually had the demand for them.

    With the tax credit, the way I see things is that I have at least until the end of September of this year to make my decision.

    Thanks for the reply.
     
  4. Betelgeuse

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wiyosaya @ May 4 2006, 11:14 AM) [snapback]249686[/snapback]</div>
    "Prii on their lots"?!?!? I understand each individual word, but they don't make sense together :p

    I really do think it is a case of them being able to sell any Prii that come to them. Somone on this board once told a story about going to try to buy a Prius and the salesman trying to get them to buy a Corolla. The person wondered why the salesman would try that if someone wanted to buy the (more expensive) Prius. I think that the answer is that the dealers can *always* sell the Prii, but they can have Corollas stack up on their lots. I think that the answer is the same for you: if you don't buy the Pink Package #4.3 Prius, someone else will.
     
  5. Wiyosaya

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Betelgeuse @ May 4 2006, 11:24 AM) [snapback]249689[/snapback]</div>
    Agreed. Just remove the "A" from the word at the beginning of this paragraph, and I think we have the answer. I spoke with a dealer in another area of the country not too far from me, and he indicated that the package I wanted any dealer in my area could get. Well, I've agreed to get a package #5, seaside, grey when I really wanted a package #6 (for the HIDs), seaside, bisque. Dealer kept telling me that the combination that I wanted was not available in this area. Actually, two different sales people at the same dealer told me two different things.

    However, after seeing this post http://priuschat.com/index.php?showtopic=1...l=paint+sealant
    and seeing how accommodating this particular dealer was makes me realize that Prius buyers (myself included) may be part of the problem in that people accept the cars that they are offered rather than demanding what they want. I find it really hard to believe that this person got leather seats in a package #5. My dealer told me that they were available only in the higher packages.

    I gotta wonder if part of the problem is that the dealers, themselves, don't realize that the car is more customizable than indicated.

    Whatever. :blink: :rolleyes:

    At this time, I really do think that it comes down to the demand still being so high for prii that what one person does not buy, another will. I can just imagine what it will be like when 2008 Prii are finally available with that 94MPG EPA rating and Li-ion batteries.