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  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Jeff Cobb's monthly summary, well done: October 2016 Dashboard

    Model 10/15/16 09/15/16 08/15/16 07/15/16
    1 Prius Liftback 5421 9790 10177 9930
    2 Ram Pickup Diesel* 5092 5385 5235 4310
    3 Fusion Hybrid 4915 3776 3002 3519
    4 Transit Diesel* 3571 3780 4198 3967
    5 RAV4 3551 4127 4919 4692
    6 Volt 2191 2031 2081 2406
    7 Camry Hybrid 1802 1902 2155 2214
    8 Prius c 1543 1459 1459 1402
    9 Sonata 1479 1815 1146 1301
    10 Leaf 1412 1316 1066 1063
    11 Fusion Energi 1372 1652 1422 1341
    12 Accord Hybrid 1296 1160 890 565
    13 Model S* 1200 4100 3200 2400
    14 Prius v (lowercase v) 1168 1222 1346 1358
    15 Colorado Diesel 1056 1031 832 679
    16 Model X* 1000 2600 1900 1500
    17 Avalon Hybrid 673 688 775 707
    18 Malibu Hybrid 600 618 522 416
    19 C-Max Energi 571 689 707 755
    20 CT200h 564 638 819 849
    21 RX 400 / 450 h 535 387 574 684
    22 Optima Hybrid 482 591 654 768
    23 MKZ 450 460 541 681
    24 i3* 442 391 1013 1479
    25 Canyon Diesel 434 358 340 347
    26 e-Golf 407 529 454 344
    27 X5 406 482 876 649
    28 C-Max Hybrid 398 739 879 1112
    29 Grand Cherokee Diesel 357 370 368 334
    30 Highlander Hybrid 356 383 506 524
    31 ES Hybrid 353 497 692 705
    32 A3 Plug In 348 312 346 349
    33 500e* 319 370 311 274
    34 Spark 260 315 292 333
    35 Range Rover Sport 253 290 242 263
    36 Sonata Plug In* 250 275 250 350
    37 F-Pace 211
    38 i8 199 158 145 166
    39 Soul EV 190 217 153 179
    40 NX Hybrid 188 233 224 228
    41 S550 Plug In 174 41 30 32
    42 CR-Z 168 165 222 272
    43 Range Rover 165 183 202 241
    44 Q50 Hybrid 148 174 150 112
    45 XC90 Plug In 142 148 176 178
    46 Cayenne S E-Hybrid 138 131 197 148
    47 Mirai 103 69 371 41
    48 3-Series Plug in 92 54 51 25
    49 Focus EV 73 82 75 58
    50 NSX Hybrid 67 1
    51 Pathfinder Hybrid 64 80 58 55
    52 QX60 Hybrid 59 63 65 74
    53 XE 59 2
    54 B-Class Electric 58 51 57 50
    55 Lacrosse Hybrid 53 35 60 55
    56 Jetta Hybrid 48 76 128 87
    57 Promaster Van Diesel 45 32 32 31
    58 XV Crosstrek Hybrid 44 79 117 193
    59 forTwo EV 43 44 55 62
    60 X5 Diesel 38 80 177 146
    61 Panamera S E-Hybrid 38 28 59 21
    62 5-Series Diesel 33 38 65 85
    63 GLE-Class Diesel 25 45 67 99
    64 3-Series Diesel 23 50 120 153
    65 7-Series ActiveHybrid 22 5
    66 GLE 550e Hybrid 19 26 24
    67 Civic Hybrid 14 38 50 60
    68 GL-Class Diesel 14 8 48 65
    69 RLX Hybrid 13 24 19 11
    70 X3 Diesel 13 7 32 73
    71 E-Class Diesel 9 11 30 49
    72 Q70 Hybrid 9 8 9 10
    73 Cruze Diesel 5 7 7 4
    74 i 4 17 25 20
    75 ELR 3 6 6 15
    76 ActiveHybrid 5 (535ih) 1 2 3
    77 E400H 2 1 2 4
    78 ActiveHybrid 5 (535ih) 2 3
    79 Insight 1 9 5 9
    80 Q5 Hybrid 1 2 1 2
    81 ML Class Diesel 1
    82 Regal Hybrid 2 4
    83 GLK Class Diesel 1 1
    84 Impala Hybrid 10


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    • Both the RAV-4 and Prius Hatchback are in 'stop sales' due to safety recalls
      • This may have boosted Ford Fusion sales
    Bob Wilson
     
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    thanks! i won't repeat any of my stupid comments from the other thread, just the brilliant ones. here they are:
     
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    Decreases trend across the board but the LB? WOW! Is it gas prices or styling? Or both?
     
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    what is LB? if you mean prius lift back, they are on sales hold due to recall.
     
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    Yup. Oh that's right; forgot about the stop sales.
     
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    fusion looks fabulous! price, mpg's, styling, all of the above?
     
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    Ugh on Prius LB.
    Interesting that the PHEV sales do not seem spectacular considering October was the first month with extended Green HOV stickers in CA. Of course, my theory all year was that the "fix was in" on the Green stickers so I felt the PHEV sales already knew more stickers were coming. Herein I assume the lease industry maybe knew to continue buying up PHEV for CA.
     
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    This is one of the reason I feel annual sales show trends most accurately, then year over year, then month to month.
    The year over year and annual sales eliminate seasonal adjustments and help smooth out supplier or stop sales if they are of a short duration.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Fusion, and C-max, sales can also be explained by incentives to balance F150 ones for CAFE. The truck should break 700k for the year in Nov.
     
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    fusion way up, cmax way down?
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    I think it has been that way for some time now. The C-Max lost some appeal when Ford had to restate the fuel economy. The C-Max Energi actually sold more than the hybrid in Oct.
     
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    but that's a huge drop for cmax in one month. something else must be going on, like the gen 4 recall.
     
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    maybe they aren't discounting like the fusion hybrid.
     
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    There is less offers for the Fusion on Ford's site than the C-Max.

    C-Max sales have been dropping since its first year. It just hasn't done well, and will likely be dropped for a purpose built hybrid when it comes time for a redesign.
    Ford C-Max Sales Figures - GOOD CAR BAD CAR
     
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    The drop in Tesla sales corresponds with recent articles describing Tesla profitability. Just a coincidence, no doubt.

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    Tesla often ships product overseas in the first month of a quarter.
    This dip was a bit more than most, But it isn't all that out of the ordinary.
     
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    i thought that i read they were upgrading some production?
     
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    They will be upgrading a huge amount of production for the Model 3.
    Model S/X production is probable not growing beyond the rate they have reached (about 100,000/year).
     
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    This does not make sense: Is the EPA holding your diesel hostage? - MarketWatch

    Jeep and Ram stores have gasoline-powered 2017 Grand Cherokees and Ram 1500s in stock but no diesels, ...

    FCA's online inventory trackers show several thousand unsold 2016 EcoDiesel Ram 1500s available nationwide, as well as hundreds of the less popular Grand Cherokee diesels.    ​

    In contrast, 5k Ram diesels were sold last month. If this article is accurate, we should see a dramatic fall off in the next couple of months.

    Bob Wilson

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