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Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by bwilson4web, Jun 2, 2017.

  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    1 Prius Liftback 6064 5802 5798 5418
    2 Fusion Hybrid 5671 4509 5865 4939
    3 Transit Diesel* 4830 4025 4258 3621
    4 RAV4 4070 3516 3497 3080
    5 Niro Hybrid 2660 2939 2704 2143
    6 Accord Hybrid 1976 1787 1843 1867
    7 Prius Prime 1908 1819 1618 1362
    8 Golf Sportwagon Diesel 1819 1417
    9 Volt 1817 1807 2132 1820
    10 Model X* 1800 900 2500 800
    11 Ioniq Hybrid 1752 1297 327 1
    12 Camry Hybrid 1711 1513 1658 1333
    13 Model S* 1700 1200 3100 1700
    14 Bolt 1566 1292 978 952
    15 Highlander Hybrid 1514 1663 1587 1339
    16 Leaf 1392 1063 1478 1037
    17 Passat Diesel 1147 769
    18 Prius C 1121 1161 1385 1372
    19 Fusion Energi 1000 905 1002 837
    20 C-Max Energi 950 720 662 639
    21 Jetta Diesel 937 637
    22 Prius V 929 926 960 892
    23 C-Max Hybrid 880 720 671 676
    24 Sonata 848 1115 1082 1471
    25 CT200h 825 794 841 458
    26 RX 400 / 450 h 747 615 713 507
    27 Colorado Diesel 666 753 722 663
    28 MKZ 588 509 605 570
    29 i3* 506 516 703 318
    30 Malibu Hybrid 493 409 372 534
    31 3-Series Plug in 475 260 365 144
    32 ES Hybrid 467 356 448 330
    33 X5 433 291 397 275
    34 Avalon Hybrid 412 400 530 464
    35 e-Golf 381 307 342 293
    36 Canyon Diesel 310 324 291 348
    37 500e* 310 300 418 283
    38 A3 Plug In 294 301 414 400
    39 X5 Diesel 273 238 271 154
    40 Range Rover Sport 228 230 397 324
    41 NX Hybrid 228 181 276 184
    42 Sonata Plug In* 225 300 275 250
    43 Optima Hybrid 220 228 245 257
    44 F-Pace 175 134 336 290
    45 Cayenne S E-Hybrid 174 185 126 121
    46 Range Rover 166 206 342 275
    47 Mirai 162 106 118 110
    48 MDX Hybrid 148 57
    49 XC90 Plug In 146 145 103 83
    50 3-Series Diesel 138 112 194 85
    51 Q50 Hybrid 135 102 152 138
    52 Focus EV 132 125 407 228
    53 Soul EV 129 167 171 152
    54 XE 125 257 398 89
    55 Clarity 119 34 23 27
    56 Cruze Diesel 104 79 33 5
    57 Beetle Diesel 91 44
    58 Optima Plug In 85 86
    59 QX60 Hybrid 69 56 76 53
    60 CR-Z 65 85 129 118
    61 Pathfinder Hybrid 65 57 104 90
    62 XF 53 49 39 35
    63 B-Class Electric 46 66 50 56
    64 Promaster Van Diesel 42 27 40 26
    65 7-Series Plug in 33 123 42 35
    66 A3 Diesel 30 6 3 3
    67 NSX Hybrid 23 91 37 46
    68 i8 18 23 49 58
    69 CT6 16 6
    70 RLX Hybrid 14 22 30 27
    71 Jetta Hybrid 10 10 9 12
    72 Lacrosse Hybrid 9 12 22 12
    73 Q70 Hybrid 5 4 11 4
    74 Civic Hybrid 4 8 15 8
    75 Tucson 4 5 2 5
    76 GS 450h 4 3 5 5
    77 Panamera S E-Hybrid 1 2 3 1
    78 XV Crosstrek Hybrid 1 1 12 6
    79 Ram Pickup Diesel* 138 196
    80 S550 Plug In 60 51
    81 GLE 550e Hybrid 47 59
    82 C350We Plug-in Hybrid 17 51
    83 forTwo EV 13 22
    84 E-Class Diesel 6 2
    85 5-Series Diesel 4 13
    86 i 3 1
    87 GL-Class Diesel 3 3
    88 Spark 3 4
    89 GLE-Class Diesel 3 2
    90 C-Class Diesel 2 8
    91 Grand Cherokee Diesel 379
    92 Sierra Hybrid 1

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    • Niro - new car 3-4 month bump may have peaked
    Source: May 2017 Dashboard

    Bob Wilson
     
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  2. bisco

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    lift back is trending in the right direction...

    i must say, that is a lot of fusions. you can't give them away forever, ford must be doing something right.
     
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    Prime in the plug-in lead again, still with low inventory (<1000 for the month). June is end of the quarter, so that month Prime sales will do yet better. Good job for the segment all around.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Lots of margin on those trucks.

    Until the end of the year approaches, I only expect larger increases from the Bolt and Ioniq as they are the ones least along in market roll out.
     
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    me too. only question is how many gassers will they steal. lots, i hope.
     
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    Well it's a horse of a different color now in the Gen4 era.
    Much more diversity than just 75% Prii every month.
    I do not know if making Gen4 more sedan like gave Fusion a better competitive advantage here in USA.
    Of course gaso prices are down and much more choice.
     
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    The sedanesque of the gen4 would help, but then there are those angles and things also added to it.
    The Prime with incentives is stealing Prius sales.
    Ford is giving the Fusion hybrid away to balance out all those F150s for CAFE.
     
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    Toyota sales data: May 2017 Sales Chart | Toyota
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    1 Toyota Prius Sedan 6064
    2 Toyota Prius V(only) 929
    3 Toyota Prius C(only) 1121
    4 Toyota Prius PRIME(only) 1908
    5 Toyota RAV4 hybrid 4070

    I can not explain why the RAV4 hybrid is included but not the Camry, Avalon, and Highlander hybrids. Nor can I explain why the Prius ECO is rolled into the Prius Sedan numbers. Toyota past practice treated the Prius as a family of cars. For grins, here are the raw numbers from the EPA fueleconomy.gov.
    model combined MPGe city highway
    1 Prius ECO 56 58 53
    2 Prius Prime 54 133
    3 Prius 52 54 50
    4 Prius c (*) 50 53 46
    5 Prius v 41 43 39

    * - the 2017 Prius c is listed with lower combined/city/highway than the 2016 Prius c. I'm sending a note to the curator and the usual suspects.

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    It's a press release from Toyota, not a company report. Like nearly everybody else, they are going to down play the bad while shouting the good. The Rav4h is doing great, and might rival the Prius numbers in a short time. The others are doing various levels of not good to bad. The Highlanderh has had low sales for most of its career, and might not have continued or even existed without the RXh to pay for the factory. The Camry hybrid annual sales was once around 10% of model's total number. In 2016, it was just 5.7%. Including the Eco with the Sedan helps inflate the Sedan's lagging numbers.

    This is the why of for the 2016 to 2017 Prius c numbers.
    EPA's gas mileage ratings drop for some 2017 models
    The EPA issued new testing rules. They went into effect for new 2016 models, but it appears the car companies didn't have to update all their existing models for the 2016 model year.
    The 2017's 46mpg combined, 48mpg city, and 43mpg highway numbers are the ones comparable to the gen4's on the window sticker.
     
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    Interesting about the cars.com article. I look forward to more technical details and comparison to fuelly.com. I'll check the Federal Registy to see if the EPA published more details.

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    I bought one of the 85 Optima plug ins. I'm surprised they aren't selling better it's a wonderful car.
     
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    Good news, the EPA has already published links about the modified testing:
    Using the last link, I looked up the Prius c and sure enough, there was no change between the old and new calculation from the link that reports the changes from the updated and previous metric. There has been a mistake in the case of the prius c.

    model year combined city highway
    1 prius c 2017 46 48 43
    2 prius c 2016 50 53 46
    3 prius c 2012 50 53 46

    The real change in calculations was described in: https://iaspub.epa.gov/otaqpub/display_file.jsp?docid=35113&flag=1
    In simpler terms, the EPA in 2008 moved from a two-test based mileage rating to a five-test system. But re-running all of the cars in the five-test protocol would be impractical. So the EPA allowed using a correction factor, "0.7", on the two-test data to estimate the five-test data. Now the EPA has better set of coefficients.

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    I was looking around Fremont Toyota lot before returning a rental. A huge dealer. Kinda sad to see lots of unsold 2016 Prius' languishing. Could hardly get a Prius 10 years ago. Things have changed a lot, but also far more alt vehicle offerings.
     
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    Are you sure they are not 2017 or 2017.5? I would have expected most all new 2016 would have been sold months ago.
     
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    The ones w/o TSS-P should be sent back or a 'kit' sent to fix them. Ship them to Georgetown or Mississippi if Toyota does not trust local dealers.

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    They had large 2016 stickers on windshield and I checked some Monroney stickers showing 2016 models. I sat in a 2016 with 2 miles total on it.
    I'd say there were about 30 or so 2016's, maybe more. This dealer probably has 80 or more Prius liftbacks and maybe 600 cars altogether.
     
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    They need to discount then way below the safer 2017 models.
     
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