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Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by Ted in Olympia, Jan 30, 2011.

  1. Ted in Olympia

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    I purchased my Gen III at the end of November and have about 2,500 miles on it now. I have been buying gas at Chevron and getting about 50-51 mpg according to the computer; actual a bit less.

    The last tank I filled up at Costco and my gas mileage right a way was way less. On the way home I only got about 40 or so. I babied it for 377 miles and finally got it up to 45 mpg. The weather was in the 40's and not bad conditions.

    Tonight I filled up at Chevron again today because my wife wanted to go the Ikea in Renton, about a 110 mile round trip. On the way up there I finished the one-way trip at 59 mpg. When I got home it was still at 57.2 mpg. The weather was about 46-48 degrees and I had the heater going at 71 the whole way. I held just over 60 mpg most of the way.

    Anyway I really wonder about the quality of Costco gas now. Does anybody else have this problem with cheap gas at Costco?

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  2. Rae Vynn

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    I've been filling up at Costco in Tumwater, generally about twice a week, early in the mornings (7:30 am - ish). I'm not seeing much difference in MPG vs. filling up at Shell ("Top Tier gas").

    Is there a difference, notable, in your commute vs the trip to Ikea?
     
  3. Ted in Olympia

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    I drive a lot for work so my normal is about 50% freeway and 50% regular commute of about 6 miles one way. So the 100% freeway Ikea trip is not normal, but the Prius is suppose to get better in town than the Freeway (but I know my normal commute is not idea for the best mpg in a Prius).

    But I would say that my "normal" mileage dropped from 51 to 45 for the Costco (Lacey) tankful. This was only one tankful so maybe I just got a bad fill?

    By the way I always improve my mileage with a trip on the freeway so I'm not so sure the Prius is better in town.

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    I alternate between Costco and Mobil and can't tell the difference.
     
  5. fuzzy1

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    Engine warmup has a major mpg impact on short commutes, especially if you are using cabin heat in winter.
     
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    When I lived in CA, I somewhat frequently got gas from Costco but couldn't tell a difference in gas mileage from it vs. anything else. There are no Costco gas stations near me now, so I can't speak WA state Costco gas.
     
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    In 15,000 miles, I have had your experience twice -- and the variable was not Costco. I believe that any station is capable of receiving a "bad tank" of gas . . .probably with too much ethanol added.
     
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    Could it be summer vs. winter gas formulation. Here in New England, the stations all seem to switch to winter gas in early November and the hit on mileage is immediate. I usually see a 4-5mpg drop when I get a tank of winter gas. Occasionally during the change-over period, I'll get lucky and hit a station that hasn't switched yet but generally I just need to wait until April to ever see a tank average over 50 again.
     
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    I use Chevron, Shell, and Costco from stations in Oregon and Washington, I have never seen a difference in mileage or anything else due to the brand.

    I do see a difference in winter vs summer and I think I get better mileage when I fill up in Nevada or Idaho due to a lower percentage of ethanol.
     
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    I've used Chevron, Shell, and Costco gas, and haven't noticed a difference in MPG.
     
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    use costco (60% of the time) + shell / QT (rest) and no difference.
     
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    It's likely just a "bad tank". OTOH, maybe Costco's suppliers are more variable, increasing the odds of a bad tank.

    BTW, I'm still trying to get my head around 110 mile round trip to do a little shopping at Ikea. I know it's not unusual, some of my relations drive to neighbouring countries to shop, LOL, but...
     
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    We use Sam's Club Regular locally and ARCO Regular on trips and haven't experienced any adverse pinging, etc....
     
  14. fuzzy1

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    But your relations are probably driving only a fraction of that distance. Even Bellis Fair Mall is only half as far from Surrey or Langley.
     
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    Lets not forget Ethanol. If Costco
    gas contains 10% Ethanol, you will get less
    MPG than Chevron with no Ethanol.

    So, my theory is that your Costco gas
    had Ethanol, and Chevron gas did not.

    Here in Oregon we have no choice. The state
    government madates all gas for auto's be 10%
    Ethanol by law all year long.

    Ethanol is without a doubt the biggest scam
    the government has ever forced down our throats.

    Not only does it take 2 gallons of diesel to make one
    gallon of Ethanol, which by the way has about 65,000 BTU's
    compared to Diesel with 130,000 Btu's, but your tax
    money is spent to give you less mpg.

    Yes.... we loose both ways!!!!

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  16. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    My G3 is company provided, so I get gas wherever the card works. We don't have Costco, but there are a lot of independents that take my fuel card (including some 'corn-free', or E0 stations.) I haven't seen as much as 1 mpg difference in any gas that I've used....including gas that's (allegedly) E0.

    Good Luck!!!

    EDIT: All of our Chevrons are E10 (for now.) Some of the smaller gas stations claim to be E0 (trying to pander to the corn-hate crowd.) My tank averages vary as much as 5 MPG with temperature (+70 to +24F) but I just haven't seen a big delta with gas.
    Caveats: I don't drive a set route, and I haven't separated the 5MPG deltas fully WRT temps and E10 versus E0 variances. Also...I only have 5,000 miles in type.
    I’m sure the Scangauge crowd has better data on the “E” factor.
     
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    My daily commute is 112 miles round trip.

    Then, on Saturdays, we will do the same trip for our shopping. Of course, we do it as major shopping trips, as in all the groceries, dry goods, pet food, etc. We'll throw in visiting friends while there when possible, and probably a meal out.
     
  18. fuzzy1

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    I find it highly unlikely that his Chevron gas did not have ethanol.

    And if it didn't, plenty of us who like 'real' gas would like to know about it.
     
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    Gas is all the same, only the distributors are different.
    Costco uses BP/Shell/Exxon or whoever sells it cheapest.
    I regularly use WAWA gas and have never noticed a difference between that or Shell/ Exxon, Valero etc..
     
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    I have stated this in other posts. But I have experienced a difference in gas quality, between the cheap stations and brand names like shell. When I owned a '96 Chevy Lumina, I found out the cheap gas was giving me engine issues. It wasnt until I switched to shell, that I no longer had the engine issues. So, I will no longer use the cheap gas, unless I absolutely have too.