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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by saneesh8, Jul 25, 2024.

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  1. saneesh8

    saneesh8 Junior Member

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    My recently bought 2009 Base model with 146k is making the classic symptoms of the failing actuator. Making noise every few seconds. The car came with a used unit in the trunk with part number 44510-47050. Seems the previous owner was planning to replace it. It does not look good and have rust in some areas. My questions are

    1. Part number listed on Toyota website is 44500-47141. But the website photos shows 44510-47051. Read that this is the actual part number. ?
    2. 44510-47051 - does it have failures like the 44510-47050 version? Or it will also fail within couple of years? 44510-47051 - i can get one <$600 in ebay. Seems to be good units. If this one also have failures, i would prefer to go with new one.
    3. Online/ebay router - they sell without the resistor - Can i re-use the existing or will it create problems?
    4. Lastly, does the failing actuator affects mpg? It stops the regen braking? I am getting 33 now.

    Please see below. Brakes works fine so far and no codes. It is highly irritating.
    2009 Prius Brake Actuator Sound - YouTube

    Thanks,
     
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    No you should be able to buy good units off eBay from very reliable large sellers namely the junk yards down in Conyers Georgia look at the sellers business page or whatever those guys are showing these things for around $300 $350 no matter how they look don't let that fool you I install used ones a few times so far and a couple of them have looked like trash. And are still working like gangbusters I've only had to change one twice because the replacement from the junkyard was bad getting put in my hands oh well. I'm not sure all the numbers and whatever you want to find the latest one you'll be surprised how many cars you find with brand new actuators in them sitting in the tow lots because the battery went bad a month or two after they did the actuator and they flat out that made up their mind they're not spending another thousand plus dollar repair on this old piece of you know what and off it goes and they go get a payment or whatever they do You would be shocked matter of fact many of them have the receipt in the glove box because that's how Prius owners are they might have to call for warranty or something and have their ducks in a row generally speaking well the original Prius owners anyway.
     
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    Did you used 44510-47051 or 44510-47050 ? I live in Dallas, TX. Local junk yards, didn't find many with good units. Online i found one with $415 for 44510-47051.

    Used units, what i read is, 44510-47051 is revised unit. But cant find any concrete information on it fixed the issues from 44510-47050. The used unit i found in the car is the older model and that's why i was reluctant to try it. I guess it is worth a try first.
     
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    The above is the photo of the actuator i got from the trunk of the car
     
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    That one sure looks like it's lived a full life....
     
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    Wonder what kills it. Design.Manufacturing defect or not changing the fluid on time.

    Found 2 on ebay with 44510-47051 (updated part number) . <$500. For some reason it is not allowing me to post links. item numbers 276537391229 and 266859822180.
     
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    Bought the new one from local dealer. $1280 (including tax and all). Also bought the Autel MaxAP 200 and software have feature for air bleeding. Going to replace it as soon as possible. It showed the ABS light once time and got cleared accidentally by me when testing the Autel scanner. Also bought 10 mm Flare nut wrench.

    Watched several videos. Planning to replace the resistor also which seems like buried inside. Here is my plan.
    1. Remove 12V battery cables and disconnect HV battery
    2. Drain coolant and remove inverter (saw some video without removing the coolant hoses, but seems less convenient)
    3. Using a vacuum (mighty vac), take out as much as fluid from brake fluid reservoir. Might use a syringe also.
    4. Remove the cabin heat auxiliary water pump from it's mount. But all hoses connected
    5. Disconnect the big hose to the abs unit, collect the fluid in a plastic container.
    6. Remove hydraulic lines, cable connector and 3 nuts holding the unit with bracket
    7. Take out the unit, swap with the new one
    8. Attach it back and connect only the fluid in line (big one)
    9. Fill brake fluid slowly and as soon as it starts filling up and draining from the ports, connect each brake line and the top one on the last
    10. Put all 4 sides on jack stands and remove wheels
    11. Over fill the reservoir and pump pedal and bleed from 4 wheels until no air left. Might have to do like 20 times pumping and removing the bleeded.
    11. Reinstall the Inverter, fill coolant.
    12. Replace the resistor
    13. Remove abs pump relays.
    14. Connect the 12V and HV battery and a charger to the 12V
    15. Power on, (not engine). It will beep crazy because of the missing relays
    16. Connect the autel reader and follow the bleeding procedure with "actuator removed" option. Bleed / fill fluid as needed.
    17. Now do abs bleeding as insructed
    18. Power off , put relays on
    19. Continue on reader.

    NOTE:: might have to bleed more than once to remove all air from system.
     
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    Replaced the actuator and the resistor. Used Autel MaxAP 200 for bleeding. I virtually followed the steps above. So far all looks good. Couple of notes,

    1. Keep at least 2 32oz bottles of brake fluid. It takes more fluid to bleed properly.
    2. While removing the abs resistor, it is easy to forget where it came from. So do it as fast as you can. It is a tight spot. Luckily only one 10mm nut.
    3. Air bleed without power connected - MUST do it. Do it as much as needed to flush out all air in the system.
    4. With the abs bleeding, fluid level can drop fast. So overfill reservoir. It can easily go below the min line.
    5. Connect the 12V charger. It drains battery quickly.
    6. No need to remove the inverter. Just slide it to side.
    7. Since there are so many bolts/nuts, a small impact driver helps a lot.
    8. Disconnect the auxiliary water pump, electrical connector first and then the line going to the heater core. Just tie it up so that very minimal coolant leak will happen. This makes the life lot easier. Otherwise this pump and hoses in come in between of each step.

    The most difficult part (at least for me)
    1. Electrical connectors. There are a *.* to remove. Because of old age and brittle. Especially the ones behind the inverter. Grey color.
    2. The whole assembly with the abs unit, then put a V shaped heavy metal piece at the bottom which prevents it from sliding out. It is heavier than imagined. You have to lift it in the tight spot and slide it
     
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