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Anyone Invest In Visa?

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  1. boulder_bum

    boulder_bum Senior Member

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    Anyone Invest In the Visa IPO?

    I got in a few weeks ago, though not much ($3000). I am hoping to raise enough profit to offset the month and a half my wife will take off shortly to take care of our new baby.

    I figure they're recession proof, and MasterCard stock value quadrupled in the past couple years.

    So far it's gone well. 10% gain in a matter of weeks. It will be interesting to see what happens at their quarterly report on Monday.​
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    I don't have any Visa stock, but we do have a fair amount of bank stock. It is seriously undervalued at the moment. We are down about $100,000 from the same period last year. I keep telling myself that we are in this for the long haul <deep breath, another deep breath...>

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    Ouch! I guess that's the good thing about not having a lot of money is that you have less to lose! :p

    Out of curiosity, were you invested in banks before they crashed, or did you buy recently, but misjudge "the bottom"?

    Looks like Visa jumped another 4% today! That's a 13% gain in three weeks! Not too shabby. I'm nervous for quarterly results Monday, though.
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    We had bank stock before the bottom fell out. My grandfather was the senior VP for a large bank, and he received much of the stock while employed. We also picked up a smaller amount of stock in our local bank. We liked the local bank and wanted to support them through our ownership. Subsequently they were purchased by a larger bank, and with that came losses from sub-prime loans.

    I don't often loose money by misjudging the bottom, as I don't really speculate on the market. We buy long term as investors and owners, as opposed to short term speculators.

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    See, I'm not into day trading or anything (yet), but I like to at least adjust with the market. For example, if I owned any REIT funds a few years ago, I would have sold them and put the money into more conservative investments.

    That's not to say I'd never invest in a REIT fund again, it's just that the timing has to be right.

    My wife and I cashed in our Roth IRA's (in a way that didn't incur a tax penalty) to put a down payment on a house at a time when the real estate market was sinking, and we figured the stock market was going to follow. Since then, our home price has actually appreciated a little (according to Zillow anyway), while we prevented a 10-25% decline in our investments because of the volatile stock market.
     
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    long haul stock. I'll keep the stock till the price quadruple. :D:D:D
     
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    As a general matter, I'd recommend diversity and putting all or most of your investment dollars in a diverse portfolio or diversified funds.

    If you want to swing for the fences, I'd recommend using only a fraction of your investment dollars to do so.
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    I agree with Boo. We spread our investments around, if you don't count the stock in our own businesses. Our bank stock is a little different since it mostly came from working for a bank. The basis value of that stock and the rules regarding basis and inheritance have made it financially undesirable to sell it and diversify. I suspect it will sit in a lump until it passes to the next generation and the basis resets.

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    I concur (most of our money is in a diversified 401k or savings), though my portfolio is actually down for the year and Visa is up another .8 percent in after hours trading. :)

    I have a friend who bets the farm on a single stock and it has apparently worked quite well for him! He invested in Crocs last year and saw his portfolio nearly double during that time. Luckily he got out before the stock lost 50% value in one day.

    That would terrify me having all my eggs in one basket, though. I imagine he has a good bit of change in there, too, as he gets paid pretty well at Microsoft.
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    The best way to do "all your eggs in one basket" investing is the old fashioned way: insider trading. On the other hand, there are those nasty down side risks if you get caught...

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    Got into V early hours of trading and I am now up 30+%. Will definitely hold on to this for a loooong time.
     
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    How did you like Monday? It was down 6% in after hours trading for awhile and I was thinking "this is silly, I'll buy more". Unfortunately too many other people had the same idea because it made up that ground early in the morning, then shot up another 7% by the end of the day on good Mastercard earnings!

    What a crazy stock! I'm up 22% in about three weeks!

    I'm a little spooked right now, though, because it can't possibly hold this pace.
     
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    Stock price always go up and down. With good timing, you can enter and exit the market with huge profit. If I have the asset to acquire more V, I will do that when it's price is down, especially on Monday. Then, I will be holding another 10+% gain if I trade with the pre-market price. :D:D

    Go V !!!
     
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    Okay, so it's up another 2.5% today and up .3% after hours. This is just nuts!

    I'm up to a 26% gain in less than a month!

    I'm getting a little skittish, though. I'm sure Visa is a big winner in the long run, but this pace can't continue. There's got to be a levelling or selloff in the short-term future. I'm almost inclined to sell part of my stake, perhaps before Fridays's job report, then either profit-take in the case of an upswing, or buy more shares on a possible dip.