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Another High MPG(e) Convert; A Work in Progress

Discussion in 'Th!nk EVs' started by Rokeby, Apr 3, 2013.

  1. Rokeby

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    Over some 75k miles, I've been able to maintain just over 50 lifetime
    MPG in our "big car," a red, '08 Prius Touring, AMAPOLA, "poppy" in
    Spanish. In our mostly urban driving it takes using hyper mileing tactics
    to get/keep that number. OTOH, my wife never does much better than
    low/mid 40's MPG. Despite my gentle urgings to follow my example, she
    just drives the Prius like the car it replaced, an older Maxima. Since the
    Prius doubles the MPGs we got earlier, she sees no reason to go all out.
    And since the gas gauge goes down so slowly, she never felt any pressure
    to try. She found the ScanGuage distracting at best, and more like no use
    whatsoever. (The only issue then and now is remembering to glance at the
    "guess gauge" at least once a week to prevent running out of gas!)

    [​IMG]

    Enter our red, all-electric, Think City, ESPERANZA, "hope" in Spanish, our "little car." We
    got her in May '12 and since then my wife uses it almost exclusively. We were very happy
    with the range we got through the summer and early fall, IIRC up to 60 miles between
    30% SOC and fully charged. As the temps dropped in late fall, and more so in the winter,
    my wife started to notice increased SOC use on her typical 15 mile round trip daily
    commute. Due some careful observation over time she was able to identify increased
    SOC use/reduced range due especially to the heater, but also the headlights and even
    the wipers. I was slack-jawed with amazement and pleasure. She was finally starting to

    "get it," as to energy use all on her own. So, we talked about things diverse about how the
    Think was different from the Prius.

    Later she reported the she had switched to using E(con) drive exclusively. This was
    significant because earlier she had found the dragfrom regen when slowing down in E
    unsettling, "weird" even. She had absolutely refused to use E, using only D(rive), no

    regen, and the brakes as needed. This even though I had explained that E would capture
    some small portion of otherwise about to wasted excess potential energy through regen
    which saved $$, though realistically it was only pennies. And on her own she discovered

    that by keeping plenty of distance ahead between cars and planning ahead for lights and
    stops she could use regen for most brakeng, just like I did. She really liked "driving with
    one pedal," her terminology. So, we talked about the benefits of "driving without brakes" --
    drifting is better than regen, regen is better than brakeing, and braking is infinately better
    than a collision -- and other tactics. I was careful not to mention "hyper mileing" for fear of
    spooking her.

    And what of our beloved Prius, the big car? We have to remember to use her for the longest
    errandruns on weekends to keep the 12V battery topped up. Or on the rare occasions when
    we both have to be on the road going separate ways. My hope of course is that she will
    transfer her newfound realizations to driving the Prius. And I'll have to wait patiently to see if
    she discovers on her own that regen is mostly in the brake pedal, not the acceleraor.

    We both like our little red Think immensely, and use her every chance we get, literally every
    day of the week. My wife is looking forward to getting back to the lesser SOC use that we saw
    in the "wine and roses" days of late spring and summer. (For the most part we used the air
    cond. very little last sumer. I said nothing about it's SOC hit and I am waiting to hear when
    she figures it out. I see no need whatsoever of trying to hustle things along and risk reducing
    the excitement that we have both felt and shared.
     
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  2. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

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    cool! is it made out of plastic?
     
  3. JMD

    JMD 2012 Prius 4 Solar Roof

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    Nice wheels
     
  4. Rokeby

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    All the external body panels are color impregnated, slightly pebble-grained,
    egg shell gloss ABS. These over a high strength steel frame. The inner panel of
    the pax doors are a steel pressings.

    Wash, no need to wax. Chemical cleaners strongly discouraged. If you're
    going to use one anyway, first test on a hidden spot, like inner surface of hood
    so that any irreversible horrific result isn't visible.

    Borbet alloy rims , type CA, 6x14, hub centric, weight 19?? lbs (heavyish)
    Tires: 165/65R14, OEM Michelin Energy Saver- front and rear

    Bisco,

    I know what you're thinking. But it ain't so, the roof on all Thinks
    matches the body color. Hahaha, the kid laughs at you!
    [​IMG]

    You have to have a good sense of humor or thick skin to drive a Think.
     
  5. JMD

    JMD 2012 Prius 4 Solar Roof

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    If I recall the Smart Car had replacement parts on the inside with different colors. So you can in mid ownership change the color of the dash etc with new plastic parts.

    Is this similar?
     
  6. Rokeby

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    Unfortunately, no. The Think was designed and built following classic
    Scandinavian furniture minimalist concepts, as in keep it simple. Some examples:
    * it has a stereo, and it has two speakers;
    * it can carry two people, and it has two cup holders;
    * you need to clear the windshield, and it has one bus-like wiper,
    * the power windows need switches, and there is one for each window on the center
    console, no auto-down on drivers side;
    * there is a glove shelf, it does not have a door;
    * there is preciously small storage on the doors and in the sides behind the seats, it
    is a hammock-like nets.
    (From these lastt two. I take it that Scandinavians are obsessively if not anally neat
    and clean.)

    The only extravagance I've found is that unlike the Prius, there is a switch on the
    dash to release the rear hatch ;-)

    There is but a single interior color scheme: headliner is cream colored (This
    wraps down to the floor behind the seats.); door panels are silver. Door panel
    inserts, dash, center stack, floor mats and seats are black. Take it or leave it.

    I know of but a single exception. At sometime in the past, one of the company
    owners had the seats, dash and door panels done in red for his personal car.