Amsoil vs Mobil 1

read these.
Synthetic Oil Life Study, check the past results links.
Engine Oil Filter Study

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(kDB @ Sep 2 2006, 05:50 AM) [snapback]313019[/snapback]</div>

Great comprehensive studies so which is better? Seemed to say change the filter every 5k synthetic oil at 8k.. too many words though for me to find the slick info. I'm going back to 3rd grade and really learn how to read this time.

 

A couple things to keep in mind. First, Amsoil sales websites are a dime a dozen. There are literally thousands of them out there (try google-ing "Amsoil" and just see what happens...). Sadly, Amsoil doesn't do the greatest job in policing the ethics of some of its sales people, and you'll see some frankly outlandish claims on some of these sites.

Second, you can't just say "Amsoil" does better than M1. There are dozens of different Amsoil motor oil products, targeted at different markets and performance needs. Whether or not a given Amsoil product outperforms one of the M1 products (there are, btw, three different 5w-30 Mobil-1 oils at the moment too, standard, EP, and new TSUV) will depend mostly on how you use your car in your circumstances and environment. Most all will do great in the vast majority of cases.

Here is the real main Amsoil site (corporate, not reseller): Click here for Amsoil Home.

And here is is the motor oils sub-page: Click here for Amsoil Motor Oil Info.

Please join us over on Bobistheoilguy.com. You'll find a more evenhanded discussion of the relative merits of the products available. Amsoil products are well respected by most (check out their used oil analysis results -- hard to argue with), but they also have a firmly established reputation for somewhat hyperbolic advertising. Do also keep in mind that only the XL line (which happens to be a Group-III product, unlike the other lines that are IV/V oils) is API licensed. OTOH, all Mobil-1 products are API SM and GF-4.

Now, let the hard thinking begin. . . .

 

For now, I'm leaning towards the Amsoil oil filter. As for the oil, still researching on independent tests. What do the experts think?
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Scott, If you decide to go for Amsoil, we can buy a case and splitt the final product
Regards

 

FYI, My coworker just bought an 07 Audi A3 and the manual states that synthetic oils can be changed at 15k miles without voiding the warranty.
I use Mobil 1, and just tried the 15k Extended Mobil 1 on my last change on my 04 Prius. It's a dollar more a quart, but saves money with one third of the oil changes.

Filters, I don't kow (change every 5k or 15k).

 

About the only real knock I have against Amsoil is their Multi Level Marketing approach. The local Canadian Tire stores here have started carrying Amsoil for $2.50 a litre more than Mobil 1, which is a good $2-$4 a litre cheaper than the many Amsoil "distributors."

I've been running used oil analysis on my 2004 Prius while slowly upping the oil change interval. Oil changes at 7,000 miles are trivial with Mobil 1 and the Toyota filter.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(200Volts @ Sep 7 2006, 07:04 PM) [snapback]316044[/snapback]</div>

You've stumbled over one of my personal pet peeves. Running oil longer than the recommended interval will NEVER, I repeat NEVER void your warranty, at least not in the US. If you go over/longer than the recommendation, AND the manufacturer can prove that doing so caused damage that you're claiming under the wty, then they can deny that claim. This does not, however, void your wty in any way. Even if the mfr succeeds in winning a wty claim denial in court, the wty remains in full force and effect as to other claims. Obviously, it's best not to play with fire while you're within wty (avoiding a fight, even if you will win it, is almost always best, IMO), don't let them cow you with threats of "voiding" your wty -- no such animal!

Do note that aftermarket "extended"wtys are a different animal, and CAN be jeopardized. If you have any questions about them, see a lawyer in your jurisdiction.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ScottY @ Sep 7 2006, 08:55 PM) [snapback]316092[/snapback]</div>

No analysis was done.

 

If you go to bobistheoilguy.com you might find the latest synthoil news of interest. Evidently someone that works in a lab tested Mobil 1 and found it to be mostly a Group III oil with very little Group IV or Group V components at all. Mobil, of course, won't answer any questions about how much of ther oil is Group III and how much is anything else. As you remember, Mobil 1 complained that Castrol Syntec when is a Group III based oil called is a synthetic oil. Mobil's complaint was thrown out. So the speculation is that Mobil redid their Mobil 1 oil and removed most of the expensive components and now the oil is mostly a Group III product, like Syntec but with a Group IV price. Mobil as even added a new more expensive version called Mobil 1 EP. No one has been able to figure out what the changes are and the used oil analysis reports are not much help, either. Beyond Amsoil's flaky marketing this kind of monkey business on the part of Exxon Mobil is beginning to make Amsoil products look a lot better.

I'm also looking for a synthetic oil for my 07 and have not made a choice, yet. I'm looking elsewhere.

 

Hi All,

Anybody every heard of "Lukas" Synthetic engine oil? They had that at Pep-Boys yesterday.

 

I usuallly use the Mobil1 filter because I believe that it is just as good as K&N and Amsoil. Mobil1 lasts me 15,000miles with Redline or Royal Purple oil.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(silentak1 @ Nov 20 2006, 09:09 AM) [snapback]352121[/snapback]</div>

What viscosity oil are you using?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(LongRun @ Nov 20 2006, 07:44 PM) [snapback]352353[/snapback]</div>

I purposely use 5w20 instead of 5w30. I *personally* feel that i achieve a smoother engine and better MPG and I don't need 5w30 in LA. 5w30 is best all around as suggested by Toyota engineers.

 

OK, so I'm going to switch to sync oil this next oil change..... where is the best place (cheapest) to buy the sync oil and filters???

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rangerdavid @ Nov 20 2006, 07:42 PM) [snapback]352378[/snapback]</div>

Here in Canada Wal Mart is good for Mobil 1. Superstore (grocery store) price is about the same as Wal Mart. All others are higher. I think the Mobil 1 oil filter is made by Champion, if I recall correctly from the oil filter thread.

Do read the synthetic oil thread before choosing which oil to use. It appears there may be even better choices than Mobil 1. I use it and am happy with it, but check out the consensis on the bobistheoilguy site.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(silentak1 @ Nov 20 2006, 09:09 AM) [snapback]352121[/snapback]</div>

The K&N oil filter is different than a Mobil 1 or Amsoil filter. It's a good quality filter made by Champion just like the Mobil 1 filter. The difference is that the K&N filter is build for more flow and because of that does not filter down to as small a particle size as does the Mobil 1 or Amsoil filter. If for some reason you want more flow it would be the choice, but more flow is probably not needed in most stock motors.