1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

American Chestnut Tree

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by bwilson4web, Nov 9, 2023.

  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2005
    27,660
    15,661
    0
    Location:
    Huntsville AL
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tesla Model 3
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    Good news:


    Source: Scientists work to create blight-resistant chestnut with hopes of restoring tree to America | US Forest Service

    A coalition of federal agencies, states, nonprofits, universities and private citizens have been working to create a blight-resistant chestnut. The American Chestnut Research & Restoration Program at the State University of New York has developed one such tree, known as Darling chestnut.

    This effort is part of a larger initiative to use forest biotechnology as a tool to protect and restore our nation’s forests from the ravages of pests, diseases and other threats. Collaborators include the Forest Service’s Southern Region and its Southern Research Station, the American Chestnut Foundation, State University of New York, University of Georgia, Penn State and Virginia Tech. The Forest Service has provided funding, technical expertise and sites for test plantings of traditionally back-crossed chestnut seedlings, including the Pisgah, Cherokee, Nantahala, George Washington, Jefferson, Allegheny and Green Mountain national forests.

    The Forest Service, in close collaboration with the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities, chose chestnut as the initial prototype to support forest restoration. Approval of this blight-tolerant chestnut would lay the framework for restoration of other tree species, such as ash and hemlock, that have been similarly devastated by invasive species.

    The Darling chestnut is being reviewed by three federal agencies: Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (as biotechnology in agriculture), U.S. Food and Drug Administration (as a genetically engineered food) and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (as a plant incorporated protectant).

    Why is this important?

    The Village Blacksmith by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow - Poems | Academy of American Poets

    Henry Wadsworth Longfellow1807 – 1882

    Under a spreading chestnut-tree
    ⁠The village smithy stands;
    The smith, a mighty man is he,
    With large and sinewy hands,
    And the muscles of his brawny arms
    Are strong as iron bands.

    His hair is crisp, and black, and long;
    His face is like the tan;
    His brow is wet with honest sweat,
    He earns whate'er he can,
    And looks the whole world in the face,
    For he owes not any man.

    Week in, week out, from morn till night,
    You can hear his bellows blow;
    You can hear him swing his heavy sledge,
    With measured beat and slow,
    Like a sexton ringing the village bell,
    When the evening sun is low.

    And children coming home from school
    Look in at the open door;
    They love to see the flaming forge,
    And hear the bellows roar,
    And catch the burning sparks that fly
    Like chaff from a threshing-floor.

    He goes on Sunday to the church,
    And sits among his boys;
    He hears the parson pray and preach,
    He hears his daughter's voice
    Singing in the village choir,
    And it makes his heart rejoice.

    It sounds to him like her mother's voice
    Singing in Paradise!
    He needs must think of her once more,
    How in the grave she lies;
    And with his hard, rough hand he wipes
    A tear out of his eyes.

    Toiling,—rejoicing,—sorrowing,
    Onward through life he goes;
    Each morning sees some task begin,
    Each evening sees it close;
    Something attempted, something done,
    Has earned a night's repose.

    Thanks, thanks to thee, my worthy friend,
    For the lesson thou hast taught!
    Thus at the flaming forge of life
    Our fortunes must be wrought;
    Thus on its sounding anvil shaped
    Each burning deed and thought.

    Bob Wilson
     
  2. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2006
    22,447
    11,760
    0
    Location:
    eastern Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    The blight resistance comes from a Chinese chestnut. IIRC, it makes up 1/13th of this cultivar.
     
  3. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,129
    50,045
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    i have always had an affinity for chestnuts. one that i passed on to my children and grandchildren, i've been fascinated by them since i first discovered them a s a child. we used to carve pipes from them.
    i hope they are successful in their endeavor!
     
  4. ChapmanF

    ChapmanF Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2008
    24,902
    16,209
    0
    Location:
    Indiana, USA
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    IV
    Is it not possible, in a pinch, to wreak our fortunes at a flaming forge located under some other kind of tree?

    Also, how advisable is it to site a flaming forge under any kind of spreading tree?

    How about adjacent to a Frans Fontaine Hornbeam, maybe?
     
    #4 ChapmanF, Nov 9, 2023
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2023
  5. hill

    hill High Fiber Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2005
    20,170
    8,353
    54
    Location:
    Montana & Nashville, TN
    Vehicle:
    2018 Chevy Volt
    Model:
    Premium
    Never had a chance to partake .... but are their taste/texture similar to filberts/hazelnuts ? they seem to have a similar look
     
  6. Rmay635703

    Rmay635703 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2016
    2,609
    1,624
    0
    Location:
    Somewhere in Wisconsin
    Vehicle:
    2013 Chevy Volt
    Model:
    N/A
    I prefer black walnuts which are becoming less common.

    At devils lake they had oak tree sized walnut trees, every year in the fall I would grab a bucketful of the bare ones (likely last years)

    Things keep forever in the shell, a hammer or maul would open them.
     
  7. ChapmanF

    ChapmanF Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2008
    24,902
    16,209
    0
    Location:
    Indiana, USA
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    IV
    There's a black walnut in my backyard, but I haven't really figured out how to process the things. Most autumns, I spend multiple weekends pitching the walnuts out of the yard for the street sweeper to pick up, so I can walk in the yard without twisting my ankles. Then I go to the store and buy walnuts.

    Of course the tree drops them encased in green fruit that then rots. I looked on the web once and got the impression it's pretty labor-intensive going from those to nuts I could store.

    This year, for whatever reason, the whole tree only dropped maybe 15 nuts.
     
  8. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,129
    50,045
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
  9. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2006
    22,447
    11,760
    0
    Location:
    eastern Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    I was considering planting paw paws, but the neighbors might complain.
     
  10. hill

    hill High Fiber Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2005
    20,170
    8,353
    54
    Location:
    Montana & Nashville, TN
    Vehicle:
    2018 Chevy Volt
    Model:
    Premium
    i knew that was coming

    .... and at one time wasn't nuts the response to German & Japanese officers when they'd ask U.S. troops to surrender?
     
    #10 hill, Nov 9, 2023
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2023
  11. Rmay635703

    Rmay635703 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2016
    2,609
    1,624
    0
    Location:
    Somewhere in Wisconsin
    Vehicle:
    2013 Chevy Volt
    Model:
    N/A
    Black walnuts are one of the most aromatic and tasty nuts I know of.

    I don’t process them the husks are removed by time and nature, no labor required. Online they say not to do that but all the nuts I gathered were on the ground with the hull missing. How it disappeared no idea.

    Then getting the shell open takes labor or special equipment.

    The Brit’s being the insane people they are have a way of picking the things before they are nuts and brining and pickling the things so you eat the whole fruit, hull and all.

    I would be terrified of trying such a thing not knowing what is early enough to pull this off.
     
  12. tochatihu

    tochatihu Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    9,156
    3,562
    0
    Location:
    Kunming Yunnan China
    Vehicle:
    2001 Prius
    They are very tasty although I do not know what nut I'd call them most similar to. Trees will bear for >1000 years if allowed to. Wood is good for furniture. I never see chestnut plantings while on the road in China, which I suppose means they are mostly grown in steep lands.

    So for a variety of reasons, this is a nice tree species to have around.
     
    bwilson4web likes this.