Accord hybrid 2017 real world mileage by cars.com

From the article - this was how they "tried" to get good city mileage:

We used the electric vehicle button, which can keep the car in electric-only mode for short distances when the battery has enough charge. We also used Eco mode and kept the transmission lever mostly in the B (Battery) setting for boosted regeneration when slowing down.

Credibility isn't very high for me after reading that...especially the B for battery part

 

Yeah the short trips are rough. But I'm thinking they shortchanged the accord hybrid even more by driving it in B mode and trying to keep it in EV all the time.

 

that's not bad, might even be a mile or two better than our hycam which typically comes in around 42 at the pump under similar conditions. but we have the big wheels, what's on the honda?

will be interesting to see how the 3rd gen hycam fairs against it.

 

They said it was touring trim, which I think has 17" wheels. I am actually pretty impressed with those results as well. I'm not sure my 2012 Prius would do much better, especially with the short trips and B mode. It also doesn't cost $37,000 though.

 

that might be honda's biggest problem, high msrp, and reluctance to discount. we picked up our 34k hycam for 30k. yoga isn't afraid to drop his pants, if the situation calls for it.

 

I agree with this completely. I like Honda vehicles but they are just too high and buying our odyssey was like pulling teeth. I have had much better experiences at Toyota dealerships. We had a sienna negotiated out too, just liked the odyssey better, and my Prius negotiation was painless.

 

toyota must have efficiency that honda cannot achieve due to size? idk, maybe honda has higher profits.

 

It is a mix of things. They have a good reputation on quality, and they don't do fleet sales. This increases demand, and resale values on the cars. So Honda and the dealers don't have to offer incentives as often in general. Then the dealers can also be just greedy on top of that.

I have friends and family that have had Hondas, and they can make a good car. I personally just don't see their cars has having that extra value to deal with their dealers.

 

they have different qualities than toyota. tend to be more hp and stylish, i don't think the quality is quite as good, or the mpg's, but very close. perhaps they have better interiors and such, but i'm thinking more reliability wise. i wonder if toyota makes money on fleet sales, or just gives them economies of scale.

it seems odd to me that all (most?) honda dealers are like this. hard for mfg.'s to control the dealers, but is exactly what happened to my wife 15 years ago, and why we have had 7 toyota's instead of honda.

 

I make the first half of the same drive all the time...DC to Pittsburgh leg is quite mountainous lousy MPG. Pittsburgh out to Michigan leg should be much better

 

I'd same their reliability is on par with Toyota's. Honda has had some big issues in the past(transmissions on V6 Accords, IMA hybrid batteries), but so has Toyota(sludging oil in their 2.5L, various rust issues on the Tacoma). I'd likely wait an see for a year or two before considering a Honda hybrid, but wouldn't worry about getting an ICE Honda.

Good fuel economy was one of Honda's founding principles. On a fueleconomy.gov power search between the two(2015 to 2017 MY, small cars and family sedans, automatic transmission, FWD, and ICE gasoline) the only Toyota out of the first ten results isn't even a Toyota; the 2017 Yaris iA is a rebadged Mazda2 with the full SkyActiv suite.
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The numbers are close, but Toyota also makes some of the thirstiest trucks and SUVs on the market while Honda doesn't even have a V8.

This is another reason Tesla doesn't want a dealer network.

 

We love our odyssey but the experience at that dealer has become almost a family joke at this point. They just will not deal without pulling out all the car dealership cliches. It's interesting to hear so many others with similar Honda dealer experiences.

 

sorry no in a Prius I'd say 43MPG typical on that part of the trip/round trip.

 

how is this guy still employed? what an idiot!

 

I have seen this in a lot of car magazine reviews too. They don't understand B mode or how to drive hybrids and then pan them for not getting good mileage.

 

To be fair, many hybrid owners don't know how B and the EV button works.

 

That's true. Sometimes I think they should just have labeled the B mode L like on a ICE car. It would not be technically correct but people would probably have a better understanding of what it's for.