A man who makes Al Gore seem somewhat normal

Who cares about a haircut. I am more interested in that he doesn't invade the wrong country and gets thousands of americans killed either directly by war, or indirectly by refusing to fund stem cell research.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daronspicher @ Apr 18 2007, 06:42 AM) [snapback]425217[/snapback]</div>

You're right daron, only republicans should have the right to be rich!

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daronspicher @ Apr 18 2007, 09:32 AM) [snapback]425284[/snapback]</div>

Do you know how much Bush spends on haircuts and what the size of his house(s) are? Again not mentioning the deaths and scandals:

List of controversies associated with U.S. President George W. Bush and his administration.

Alleged retaliatory acts against opponents

* Plame affair
* Al Jazeera bombing memo
* Bunny Greenhouse

Controversies surrounding pre-Iraq war intelligence

* Iraq and weapons of mass destruction
* Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda
* Office of Special Plans
* Niger uranium forgeries
* CIA leak grand jury investigation
* Downing Street memo
* Bush-Blair memo

Controversies surrounding human rights

* Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse
* Extraordinary rendition
* Unlawful combatant
* John Negroponte

Controversies surrounding spying

* NSA call database
* NSA warrantless surveillance controversy
* Spying on the United Nations

Controversies surrounding propaganda

* Bush administration payment of columnists
* Lincoln Group
* White House Iraq Group

Controversies surrounding obstruction

* 2002 New Hampshire Senate election phone jamming scandal

Controversies surrounding response to national crisis

* Criticism of government response to Hurricane Katrina
* Walter Reed Army Medical Center neglect scandal

Controversies involving business / economics

* Halliburton
* Dubai Ports World controversy
* 2002 United States steel tariff

Controversies involving influence / lobbying

* Energy Task Force

Controversies involving secrecy / censorship

* Executive Order 13233
* State Secrets Privilege
* Free speech zone
* EPA 9/11 pollution controversy
* Misrepresentation of cause of death of Pat Tillman
* Use of Republican National Committee servers and private mail systems for Government business



Controversies surrounding nepotism / cronyism

* Michael D. Brown
* Harriet Miers Supreme Court nomination
* Uncle "Bucky"
* Sam Fox

Controversies surrounding the growth of executive power

* Unitary executive theory
* Signing statement
* Line-item veto
* Dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy

Controversies surrounding criminal acts of Administration officials

* Brian Doyle
* Claude Allen
* David Safavian
* Larry Franklin
* Roger Stillwell
* Frank Figueroa
* Darleen Druyun
* Lewis Libby

Controversies surrounding investigation of Administration officials or nominees

* Carl Truscott
* Joseph E. Schmitz
* J. Steven Griles
* Susan Ralston
* Kyle Foggo
* Janet Rehnquist
* Kenneth Tomlinson
* George Deutsch
* Richard Perle
* James G. Roche
* Philip Cooney
* Bernard Kerik
* Timothy Flanigan
* Linda Chavez
* Eric Keroack
* Lurita

But Clinton got a BJ and Edwards spends too much on haircuts.... Some perspective please!!!

 

it sure does sound like an incredible misuse of money. but i don't see where his being rich and his dayspa habit have to do with his campaign against poverty. you're saying he should do this personally rather than through policy?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daronspicher @ Apr 18 2007, 05:42 AM) [snapback]425233[/snapback]</div>

I'd vote for the town hooker, but not if she says she's against prostitution. A hooker who is openly a hooker is a heck of a lot more honest than a politician who pretends he's not a prostitute. A politician prostitutes his soul for political power. A hooker just provides sex for money. A hooker takes your money and lets you screw her. A politician takes your money and then screws you. A hooker negotiates with you for a price you both can agree on. A politician lies to get your vote, and never tells you what it's really going to cost you.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daronspicher @ Apr 18 2007, 05:42 AM) [snapback]425233[/snapback]</div>

This is very strange logic. From what I think you're saying every politician has to live the causes they back.
If this is the case then besides Edwards there are other problems:
Bush can't care about children's educations because he's educated.
Hillary can't care about heathcare because she has it.
Obama can't fight against the war because he's not in it.
McCain is allowed to back research for cancer becuase he's had it, but the others are not.

This will really narrow people's focus, that's for sure.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Alric @ Apr 18 2007, 10:52 AM) [snapback]425298[/snapback]</div>

Can i please see your list of controversies associated with U.S. President Bill Clinton and his administration.

 

I love politics! :lol:

 

Alrighty then - one of your "arguments" essentially says that rich people shouldn't help out the poor since they are rich and that would be hypocritical.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daronspicher @ Apr 18 2007, 01:09 PM) [snapback]425396[/snapback]</div>

but... but... that won't get anyone into the white house

 

Haha...

This is hillarious..

From the left: BUSH SUCKS HE IS A CRIMINAL AND HE KILLS AMERICANS!

From the right: BUT BUT BUT.. BUT CLINTON!!!!

 

playing clean (ie doing what you say, becoming an example) against others who play dirty isn't gonna work in this world. i wish it would, and i wish people would see through the crap. but politics is deeply tied to psychology nowadays, and when you know how groups of people work it's not hard to manipulate them as you see fit for your own ends.

you're right though, in that we need someone who has honor and integrity and is a doer, not a talker. the question is whether he/she would make it to office.