2nd generation Prius v (lowercase v), 2017 or 2018??

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  1. Native2PS

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    Anyone heard anything? I'm thinking 2018 but hoping for 2017. I have 150k right now, and will have 215k at the end of next year, so that would be perfect for me. If I have to go one more year, I project I will be close to 280k. I've had 0 issues with my v (it's still a lowercase v for the Prius v wagon because only 2010 Prius used uppercase Roman numerals for model designation) so far, but after 200k, anything can happen.
     
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    You should check out the Prius v:300,000 miles club forum,some people don't have an issue with their v even with those miles on.
     
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    IT will be a Gen-4 system, which is out for 2016 in the hatchback. Since they did a cosmetic re-design in 2015 I wouldn't expect a Gen-4 based v till 2018, but anything can happen.
     
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    Yeah for checking the 300k club, and most are still going strong.
     
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    v (lowercase v not V for the Prius v wagon) still appears to be set to continue as a gen iii motor & nimh battery.

    So will the next gen v be out in 2018
     
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    No one knows, all we can do is speculate.

    I hope for a new v in 2018, and a new c in 2019, then a minor refresh of the Liftback (and Prime?) in 2020.
     
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    Found an article that quotes Toyota USA senior executives - essentially stating that whether to launch a 2nd Gen Prius v in US is under review.

    However, forum rules prevents me from posting link as I am a newbie... The article can be found by navigating to hybridcars_fullstop_com and accesing this article: toyota-updates-prius-family-sales-projections-prius-v-future-uncertain

    If someone else that is not newbie can post link as response that might be helpful.

    The article does not discuss whether Toyota Japan is developing a 2nd Gen Prius v for other markets though.
     
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    I believe that article was from Feb and is linked in the extended post below. Toyota has made a hybrid Rav 4 that is essentially the same size as a v but holds more and can be setup for a hitch legally. But the mpg is low compared to the v. The v has a higher numerical final drive ratio to handle increased load which lowers it's mpg from a standard Prius. The market will make the call.

    OH No! Toyota Might Ditch the Prius c, v (lowercase v for the Prius v wagon) and Plug-In Hybrid | PriusChat
     
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  9. rdgrimes

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    ^^^
    The RAV4 gets lower MPG mainly due to the 2.5L ICE. I'd really like to try a Rav4 with the 1.8L system, even if it doesn't get up all the hills. ;)
    OTOH, a Prius-v with the electric AWD system and a couple inches more clearance might be as popular as the Rav4.
     
    #9 rdgrimes, Oct 17, 2016
  10. mikefocke

    mikefocke Prius v Three 2012, Avalon 2011

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    No way. The 'I'm a macho man' (or woman) look of a CUV/SUV has rendered wagons uncool. Look at the last two years sales figures. And the 8 MPG difference is ignore-able by buyers with gas priced as it is today. In several years, who knows.
     
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    The difference between Rav4 and Prius-v MPG is more like 10-12 than 8.
     
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    Well the 2G Prius v will have to differentiate itself from the R4h somehow. An Auris Sports Tourer to compete with the Jetta Sportwagen wouldn't be a bad idea. Since it's not a Prius, it can afford to "lose" some mpg for styling, handling and lower msrp.

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    However, if Toyota wants to continue the mini MPV hybrid market, they need to allow for 7 seats in the US version (and specify that it's meant for around town jaunts for 7 people OR 5 people with luggage. If you want 7 people and luggage, then get a larger minivan). It needs to be in the 2+3+2 configuration like the Prius+.

    Also, I know it's a Prius but it sorely needs the 2.5 HSD and not the 1.8 HSD. Carrying around 200-300 extra pounds with the same power as the Prius before adding people and cargo may work in Japan or Europe but it's a bit underpowered for America imo.
     
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    Odd, I can break traction off the line with my v.... Perhaps that's why I only get 38.9 MPG?
     
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    any realistic chance of a 2nd gen v announcement at the LA autoshow next week? I'm kinda waiting for the CHR as well.
     
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    After driving my mum's hyCam with the 2.5HSD for 3+ months, I have to absolutely agree with Tideland to a point where I cancelled my order of the v for my family. The 1.8HSD is too under powered for a 7-seater people mover. 2.5HSD is what the v needed. If they can shove the 2.5HSD in it, make it a larger almost like the international Honda Odyssey sized, call it something else so the MPG differences are irrelevant, that would make it more competitive.
     
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    How about calling it Sienna Hybrid?
     
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    The Sienna is too big and heavy. It'll probably require the 3.5HSD out of the HiHy/RXh. It'll have the same problem as the Prius v - not enough power so you end up using more fuel and offsetting the small displacement advantage.

    If Toyota can get PHV costs down a bit more and better battery density, they may be able to go straight to a Sienna PHV.


    The Prius v is a good size for taxis and car-sharing. It's spacious for passengers and cargo. And frankly, the flexibility is great for taxi - carrying max people (7 pass) or some people (4-5) and luggage. In the rare case they need to pick up 6 people and luggage, the taxi company can always send for a minivan.
     
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    Tesla battery?
     
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    Like the RAV4? Possibly.
     
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    Great point again Tideland! How about the Avensis? It was sold as a 7-seater wagon... Here's a pic of it.

    https://goo.gl/images/cZlco7

    A little taller and longer than the v, but the FE was not great. Toyota discontinued it in 2010, bought in the v in 2012. However, the v was never about to sell as many as the Avensis, even though the price is pretty decent.

    SM-G900I ?
     
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