Featured 25% tariffs on all foreign vehicles coming in April

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  1. Gokhan

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    So, why would someone declare the “socialists” the enemy and then act like the biggest socialist president ever? MAGA becomes MIGA—make inflation great again. Goodbye to Toyota and all the other foreign males.

    Trump plans 25% auto tariffs to reshape US trade policy
     
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    Oh darn, we'll have to buy cars in the USA in order to not pay tariffs (or, purchase used). Boohoo. Don't see anyone's hair on fire when usa manufacturers face tariffs on exporting to the Japanese.
     
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    Cause there are no tariffs on US car imports to Japan.
    U.S.-Japan Trade Agreement Text | United States Trade Representative
    Japan's Tariff Schedule as of January 1 2025 : Japan Customs

    About a third of car sales in Japan are kei cars, which aren't made by foreign car companies. For the rest, Japanese buyers overwhelmingly favor domestic brands. They are more likely to buy a foreign EV than an ICE model. So you want to support those if you want a better shot of getting into their market.
    It's not tariffs keeping American cars out of Japan, it's the market itself
     
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    if those tariffs actually happen, heads will explode. but i suspect it will change before becoming effective
     
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    "wants to provide time for drug and chip makers to set up us factories"

    so pretty much not during his current term
     
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    I think it is a mistake not to take take what Trump says at face value.

    I have started to wonder if Trump has started suffering from dementia. Everything he has been doing since he started is insane. He is inching the country steadfastly toward the edge of a cliff.
     
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    Daily show for attention. A salesman, but his “beginning dementia”, no it has been around for a number of years. Right now there has been more destruction than could have been imagined, in one month.
    Apparently he recently said it was Ukraines fault for Russia invading this last push, because they didn’t make a deal. If he was around, he would have made a deal, where they kept nearly all their land, no one killed, no domes demolished. If that isn’t five alarm level dementia, what is.
    Tariffs, he doesn’t know how they work in the most basic way. He thinks another country pays the tariffs. Like you know you tariff them and they hafta pay.
    Until he walks it back and says he was wrong, that stands.
     
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    Last week Trump said that if Hamas did not hand over all hostages to Israel by Saturday afternoon, Hamas would suffer hell. Hamas handed over only three half-dead hostages to Israel. And nothing happened. Hamas is more alive than anyone.
    I believe in deeds, not words.
     
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    and many months ago, Kamala said the border is secure .... & that Joe (who said he graduated the top of his class) is as fit & sharp as he's ever been .... & earlier Nixon said 'i am not a crook' .... & clinton said 'i did not have sex w/ that woman' etc. You've come to the wrong place to find the Paragon of honesty in our leadership - unfortunately. As for potential tariff Wars, oh darn .... we'll have to buy cars made in the USA by usa in order to not pay tariffs (or, purchase used). Hmmm .... anyone's hair on fire when usa manufacturers face tariffs on exporting to the Japanese or other countries?
     
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    soo .... Psychology degree from where?
    Gosh, dementia didn't seem to bother anyone a few months ago ....

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    derangement syndrome anyone?
    Given a choice between bad choices you take the less bad choice, even in swing States.
    What was the op's thread supposed to be about?
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    Yeah, you responded with a picture of Biden and false claim he has dementia, what was op’s thread about?
    It was about now elected’s demented view of tariffs.
     
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    Trust MSM and their lackeys to know about dementia???
    Biden's 'false case of dementia' is the reason he finally imploded and they threatened him with 25A, old Yeller'd him and replaced him with Harris.

    How'd THAT work out for them?
     
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    You could be right, but he does bluster a lot, and not follow through on everything he says.
    Mung has been like that forever.
    I’m more concerned about what they are actually doing, but unfortunately, I can’t do anything about that
     
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    Is there such a thing? A car made 100% in the USA, with no parts from any other country? How long will it take to replicate those foreign factories on US soil, and what will Americans drive in the meantime?
     
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    There was a time when most of the USA lived on farms. Then December 7th 1941 changed everything. Stuff ramped up pretty quick considering the amount of industrialization going on back then.
     
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    "Pretty quick", eh? We shall see...

    Funny you should mention Pearl Harbour...an unprovoked surprise attack against a neutral country. Which is pretty much how the rest of the world feels right now with the start of the trade war.
     
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    Japanese were killing Chinese left & right (koreans too) long before Pearl harbor. They learned imperialism from those who did it best .... the USA. Japan's stupidly thought the USA would naturally go back again to selling them raw materials like Fuel & steel.
     
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    In terms of parts content, 70% is the highest with the Model Y. That value counts Canada sourced parts as American.
    https://www.nhtsa.gov/part-583-american-automobile-labeling-act-reports

    This ranking takes into account where the profit goes, where the designing happens, etc. The Model Y is at 85 there.
    2024 Made in America Auto Index

    Moving to 100% would take time. There won't be any pressure along the lines of a war to speed things up. Fast build costs more to do. The costs of doing it in the US are also still there. There may not be a profit motive to move production and sources over just paying the tariffs.
     
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    Japanese culture was imperialist for a few thousand years before the USA came along. The British and Romans were pretty good at it too.


    Well, that could be a problem. There's going to be a whole bunch of cars that are 70% finished. Nobody's going to buy those, and nobody's going to keep making more. Lots of people will be out of work, in Mexico, Canada, and the US. This isn't good for anybody.
     
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    Then perhaps it's time to start making things over here, stop other nations from charging us tariffs and restricting what products we can sell to them on their side. YMMV