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2021 l eco collision avoidance

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Main Forum' started by MikeV, Aug 30, 2023.

  1. MikeV

    MikeV Junior Member

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    after I bought a 2021 l eco realized the collision avoidance feature not working. the button on the sterring wheel doesnt turn on an icon or anything indicating its on. the LDA does and seems to work. My first question is the camera behind the rearview mirror is for what option? i would think the pre collision but i dont know. i called dealer and even though its still under factor warranty they give you that bs about a 135 dx to determine if it is warrantable. They said there is a camera in the grill, didnt see it that may be dirty. does anyone know via a pic of their where its located. i know what a camera looks like just not seeing one in the grill. Also which camera is for what feature.
     
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    Has anyone ever asked Toyota Corporate about this "warranty diagnostic" fee ??

    IF not, I think someone should.

    Sure sounds like a scam to me.

    Try a different dealer ??
     
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    i agree. this is the first vehicle ive owned in 2oyrs that was new enough to still be covered and never remember this nonsense. i could see if it was out of factory warranty.
     
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    I believe it's 3 years, 36K miles bumper to bumper, 5 years 60K on the power train, 10 years 150K on the HV battery. Smog equipment coverage vary by state laws. I believe that CARB compliant states has the best coverage.

    The radar is behind the Toyota emblem and the camera (eye-site system) works in conjunction next to your rear view mirror. Does the variable cruise control maintain and slow down the car; when you come up to a slower moving car? They use the same system to determine car distance and cross traffic. Make sure the function your looking for is included in your Eco model; because that function may not be included in your model.

    Hope this helps...
     
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    its 2021 with 18k it does have lda and collision avoidance no bsm
     
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    ok maybe im not understanding this... so today i turned on cruise control and by doing so the radar in front on the steering wheel lit up on screen showing 3 large blue bars. i assume those are distance to engage as in 1 bar you need to be right upon target 3 bars further away. still not convinced i let vehicle drift toward a couple others while waiting at light but used the brake to not run into them. i breifly tailgated a sprinter van as traffic started to flow and did see a bright red icon on the dash that said brake. i used brake myself as i didnt want to hit truck but didnt feel the car brake on its own so not sure if this means system is working albeit not how i imagined. it was very quick then gone. Are there others who can chime in on what i described. i havent seen the malfunction notice and think that showed when i scrolled to vehicle history.

    i am also curious about the icons that look like coffee cup and the one that looks like a baloon coming out of or infront of ythe car windshield and what they are for
     
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    I’m assuming you don’t have an Owner’s Manual. I have a ‘22 XLE with the features you’re referring to and, without digging out the manual to 100% verify, the system is actually working properly. Basically the automatic braking system isn’t actually designed to do what I think you expect it to.
    You can download your manual at Toyota.com under the Menu option of MyToyota using your vin number. Well worth the effort to do it so you don’t get misled here by the multitude of useless opinions (no offense to anyone intended).
    The manual will give you a very good explanation of the different systems.
     
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    What he said.
    It is a "collision avoidance warning" system and does not apply the brakes for you.
    It is NOT in effect if you have ANY brake applied.
    And it might disable the cruise but won't apply the brakes.
    (Edit: It might actually apply some brake to slow your vehicle down if the cruise is ON, since the
    cruise control system has that capability but it won't bring it to a STOP.)

    The actual automatic braking is on higher end models.
    I don't know if any Toyotas actually have that.
    Lexus probably does.
     
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    FACT: With Dynamic Cruise Control enabled it will automatically reduce your speed compared to a vehicle in front of you that is going slower.
    If you’re only interested in opinions I’m out of the discussion. Download the manual if you’re interested in what will actually happen with your vehicle.
     
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    Maybe your US spec cars are different, but when activated my top spec Excel UK car with DCC will slow the car to a complete stop. I use it a lot on the motorway (freeway). If someone cuts in front it will adjust the speed and brake if needed (either engine or physical). I also use it in stop start traffic and it works well. The car will crawl along in traffic and come to a complete stop when required, then I either tap the go peddle or tap the stalk to resume driving. It won't however stop you drifting into someone else's lane, although the LKA will try and help you stay in lane, but it is not fool proof by any means.

    The only time I find the system can behave oddly is in driving rain as the car car surge a little, but that is mentioned in the manual.

    My car definitely has automatic emergency braking and if you ignore the big red BRAKE sign it will bring the car to a very hard stop unless you either enter some steering, throttle or brake input.

    The coffee cup symbol is advising you to take a break, the manual will give you more information on this.
     
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    I've NEVER experienced automatic braking when the dash turns red and the "BRAKE" sign popped up. NOR should anyone expect it to; If you run into something or someone - It's YOUR fault; not the car or Toyota!! The car doesn't have enough computing power or sensors to cover all impact scenarios - It's not a self driving car!

    Just my 2 cents....
     
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    I never said it was a self driving car and of course it would be the driver at fault, I just said the car has AEB which will bring the car to a stop if the driver is distracted.

    Mine has activated when I was waiting at a roundabout and the car in front pulled away and then changed his mind. If it was not for the AEB I could have gone into the back of it.

    From Toyota website
    Pre-Collision System

    The Pre-Collision System scans the road ahead for vehicles, pedestrians and cyclists, recognising when there’s a possibility of a rear-end collision. The driver is alerted with audio and visual warnings and brake assistance is activated. If the driver fails to brake in time the brakes automatically engage to prevent or mitigate a collision
     
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    I think Toyota Prius has 'Avoidance' systems. Early notifications, 'if then' early algorithms system kicks in to minimize impact results. Doesn't read that an impact will not happen. YES just like you wrote above 'collision mitigation' Yes it works. And that is a good thing.
     
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