2010 Prius w/ NexCell Lithium Throwing Codes

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  1. addyspriusIV

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    Hi everyone!

    First, y'all are wildly supportive and thank you for all the information provided so far. I've read through posts that I won't link because frankly, I'm too stressed about this decision to go through a long post. I can edit with details later if folks want more data. I live in the Northeast.

    --Short Version--

    2010 Prius w/ NexCell Battery V2 (16k 1yr 7mo) throwing P0A80 code every ~5 - 10 min now; was a gradual decline and now trying to decide next steps.

    --Long Version--
    I have a 2010 Prius with 96k miles that was dealer serviced until 80k when I bought it. Since the car was driven so few miles per year, the hybrid battery wasn't doing so great but it was definitely working fine and we got 49 - 57 MPG depending on driving conditions. One week we went on vacation and when we got back the battery significantly decreased in local/EV driving ability. I checked Dr.Prius and it's lifespan went from 62% to 43%.

    I had an opportunity to buy a used NexCell battery from a fellow PriusChat member who is a Toyota Master Technician with the hybrid certification. We met up and he swapped the cells - great experience. He told me the NexCell Lithium had 10k miles and 1 yr on it and with my rose colored glasses I thought it was a great buy. When I used it for the 6k miles/7 months I've had it, it's been great.

    Now the car consistently has the red triangle and even when I reset it, it will throw P0A80 even after 5 minutes of driving. The first time it threw the code was in 12F weather so I reset it and figured it was the cold since I'd read about it before. The reset helped for 2 weeks, then 1, then 1 again, then 3 days, and now it's 5 - 10 minute. Dr.Prius does recommend clearing the code then resetting the 12V so I did that yesterday and took it for a 1.5h test drive and no code came up with mixed highway (65mph) and local (30 - 40mph). I read yesterday that driving the Prius with the Check Hybrid Battery warning on is not great - it wasn't in limp mode and my wife and I drove it around with that warning for about 4 hours total over the course of a week. I'm worried this will happen again and while I am handy, I am also an anxious person so picking a solution is worth more to me than mulling it over until it's too late.

    --Question/Ask--
    Now I'm trying to decide the FAQ:
    • How much time do I have before I need to swap so I don't kill the engine?
    • Swap back to original NiMH and just drive it until it throws its own code
      • Prolong/MaxxVolt (I don't want to DIY a charger/discharger) to try to restore it?
    • Cylindrical Cells
    • Remanufactured NiMH
    • Sodium-Ion
    • Toyota Shop Swap
    • Who do I go to for these options?
     
  2. MAX2

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    Is the battery warranty valid when resold? It was used for a short period of time.
     
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    Start by calling your jack at nexcell, i think it’s a common problem and hopefully he’ll take care of you
     
  4. addyspriusIV

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    Unfortunately I believe this effort was discontinued when I got the battery.

    I couldn't find a number on their website sodiumhybrid @ contact-dr-prius so I emailed them again. The last time I emailed them was Jan 9th but I never got a reply. The code clearing worked until now, I guess! I think it might be a cell that needs to be balanced but I'm not sure how to do it without a tool. I know there are tons of posts here on how to balance but I have other priorities I want to take care of besides taking on the new hobby of rebalancing batteries.

    If anyone is in the Northeast and winning to do it to my NiMH cells I will happily negotiate a reasonable rate while I can still use the NexCell!
     
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    Hi @addyspriusIV ,

    I would recommend to upgrade to the new sodium-ion battery design specifically for extreme temperature, operating temperature in between -40F to 140F, feel free to email [email protected]

    Best Regards,
    Jack
     
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    Thanks Jack! I sent over a request with some pictures.
     
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    The cheapest solution is,

    Contact the person that you bought the Nexcell battery from and ask him to put the original NiMH battery back in.
     
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    The warranty is not transferable to a new owner.
     
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    What is the condition of your 12v battery? How old is it, and what is the voltage reading?
    A weak 12v battery will give the hybrid system issues….
    A 5amp or less AGM charger on it over night should give it a full charge.
    That would be the easiest and least expensive way to start.

    You could also remove the hybrid battery cover and check the condition of the bus bar connections.
    They could be corroded and need cleaning. And it would give you a change to measure each block
    independently. And if it’s out of balance, Jack has a cable to put on the blocks to balance them out.