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2006 Prius and "stiffener" mod

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Technical Discussion' started by nylion, Aug 10, 2006.

  1. nylion

    nylion New Member

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    There have been lots of conversations here about the stiffening plate you can order to replace the factory one under the car. I got my car about 2 weeks ago (love it!), and I wonder if the '06 cars still require the stiffening?

    Also, strictly off topic, I have had factory nav since 2000 (Acura in 2000, Toyota Camry in 2002, then none in my Pathfinder from 2004 to a couple of weeks ago). So I guess I count as having a lot of experience. The new Prius nav is amazing! It fixes virtually all of my complaints with the earlier systems. The only remaining problem is that it still picks strange routes. This is unavoidable with a computer nav system. It uses graph theory to route you through "nodes" (intersections). No one has created a decent algorithm to do this well. However, from a feature perspective, this nav is worth every cent.
     
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    http://priuschat.com/BT-Stiffening-Plate-Review-t17018.html

    The tag line on the post is "installed on our '06", so i would assume it would answer just about every question about the BT stiffening plate you'd have.


    and as for the nav, i'd tend to agree with you - no real complaints! however, when it comes to the algorithm, i'd say there are some damn good ones out there for solving graph theory problems. the real problem isn't so much the algorithm. instead, the nav simply doesn't have complete information about the problem at hand. it provides generic estimates for speed limits on streets, which at times can be way off, for one reason or another (speed limits are often set higher than what might be expected, or there might be a school zone or something). additionally, the nav doesn't have any information on traffic lights and stop signs - so it's impossible to judge the amount of time stopped at a light (i can't even count the number of times it's recommended i go one way and i decided to go another because the lights are better timed or fewer and thus i arrive at my destination quicker - this is something it simply doesn't "know"). and finally, it doesn't know about current traffic conditions - although this is changing.

    I think we'll see much better navs in the near future. currently all the information is held on one DVD - what happens when you change that over to blue ray or HD-DVD? suddenly there's tons more room to store information, and the computer (which will be more powerful by then) can more accurately estimate times of different routes.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NYLion @ Aug 10 2006, 10:02 AM) [snapback]300774[/snapback]</div>
    If navigation is off topic, did you just hijack your own thread in your opening post?

    I'm glad to hear that the navigation technology is improving. I've heard reports here and at gpspassion from users with both Prius navigation and recent portable navigators. Many report buying a new Prius with navigation but then switching back to their portable street pilot for better routing.

    As for the BT stiffening brace, there are no instrumented tests or carefully controlled objective or double blind comparisons that I've heard of. There are many very enthusiastic customers.
     
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    I have two 2006 Prii, and drive on washboard dirt roads and across RR tracks and overpass seams that aren't perpendicular to the direction of travel. After the addition of the BT stiffener plate, it is now enjoyable to drive the cars in these areas and the yellow traction light on the dash doesn't come on anymore. I am imagining there is actually a difference! I highly recommend the BT plate!
     
  5. nylion

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    Thanks for the feedback. I did read the '06 review. I also read some other posts where people said the '06 has a stiffer suspension. I have wondered why the stability control light comes n in situations other cars had no issues with. I will order the plate and enjoy the improvement.

    As for navigation, it is true that there are too many variables for any current technology to consider. I don't think it is a storage issue (you can get 12gb on a commercial dvd). It is more of a mapping issue. Stop signs, traffic signal timing, school zones, etc require manual mapping. I suspect the effort required to do this work just isn't worth it for the map producers.