100+ MPG Prius in 2009 w/ price cut by 20-30%

It seems like the difference is even more drastic than that. The article says that in the Japanese test, the Prius II scored 99 mpg, while in the US EPA it scored 55 mpg, a difference of 44%. If they get 113 mpg with the Prius III on the Japanese test, and the US test is the same 44% lower, that would translate into 63 mpg US. It's a nice improvement, and hopefully it will be even better than that - they overachieved on the original goals for the Prius II - but hyping numbers in the triple digits is the worst kind of lying with statistics and it will only make reality look worse when it doesn't match.

I'm personally looking forward to a PHEV because that seems the shortest route from here to really getting 100 mpg.

 

I think Edmunds.com is trying to inflat those Prius mileage numbers so they can stomp on it later when they get their hands on one... :lol:

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dipper @ Apr 13 2006, 12:07 AM) [snapback]239000[/snapback]</div>

Then they can complain that they gave themselves false information. Brilliant! :lol:

 

These numbers do seem very fantastic. MPGs in the 90's seem too good to be true. I'll hope for 70's and then maybe I won't be disappointed. I need to hurry up and pay off my current loan so that I can save up and pay cash for the next Prius!

 

Maybe the Japan version uses EV mode to hit that mpg.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tideland Prius @ Apr 13 2006, 01:39 PM) [snapback]239411[/snapback]</div>

and the drivers are much smaller, so they weigh less...

 

Keep in mind that this test was done in Japan and achieved 82 miles per U.S. gallon. Also, keep in mind that the Japanese test cycle is a joke and replicates nothing in the real world. This makes the EPA test seem conservative.

The average speed of the Japanese test is 14.8 mph and the max speed is 43.5. The average speed for EPA hwy is 48.2 with the max at 59.9.
The average speed for EPA city is 19.5 and the max speed is 56.7. Also, the rate of acceleration for Japanese test is 1.78 mph/second while the EPA rate of acceleration is 3.3 for city and hwy.

So, reports of 94 mpg for next vehicle relates to Japanese cycle. Assuming the ratio of Japanese to EPA test holds us, the expected EPA combined would be 63 mpg.

Of course, there may be differences between the Japanese Prius and the American one, in which case we would expect even less that 63mpg for the next American version.

I must say I was really excited when I first heard about a future Prius making 94 mpg. I assumed that it was a PHEV. 63 mpg seems doable, however and would be welcome if not as exciting as I orginally thought.

None of this was made clear in the article.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JMcPhee @ Apr 13 2006, 05:56 PM) [snapback]239423[/snapback]</div>

When did they pass the law saying Sumo Wrestlers couldn't buy a Prius?!?!?!?

 

A honda fit hybrid would be really nice. The only thing I don't like about the current version is the drive train, so a hybrid version would be very tempting.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dipper @ Apr 13 2006, 12:07 AM) [snapback]239000[/snapback]</div>

Or it's part of a mass disinformation campaign to slow down current hybrid sales until the other mfgs can catch up.

 

TOKYO — Expect something amazing from the next Toyota Prius — like fuel economy that pushes past the 100-mpg barrier.

This is very confusing..... how can we consider this a big deal when they presently say the prius gets 99mpg?
For some reason everything is inflated compared to how we normally relate.

Sounds like all they will be doing is adding a bigger battery?

Whoopy..... I can go 42 now? or even 34 with the EV button?..... whats wrong with their sources?..... this whole thing is not credible unless they are using a different ruler somehow?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jef @ Apr 12 2006, 09:59 PM) [snapback]238969[/snapback]</div>

I think your right about thier figures..
PHEV is the best way to go presently in my opinion too, but the way to make that electricity your pluggin into is not so glamorous if it cost more to get 100mpg than gas does now.

We are already having problems with the wonderful "Ethanol" driving the prices up because of its production costs, it gives us worse gas mileage and more cost....yippi! :angry:

Alternative Energy is only good if its cheap........ We all could run around with a nuclear reactor and get even better gas mileage, but we couldn't afford it.

We need to be able to "collect" our own electricity or we will still get the financial shaft.

 

The subject line "w/price cut by 20-30%" is a little misleading. They're trying to cut costs by 20-30%. That doesn't mean we'll see a savings in terms of price of that much.