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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by Ptpiz, Apr 3, 2004.

  1. Raenstoirm

    Raenstoirm New Member

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    I dont know about the price, but you shoudl never re-paint a car if you dont have to. It KILLS the resale.
     
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    not being picky about color makes a huge difference. i told my dealer i wanted silver #6. 3 weeks later i got worried about all the long waits i was seeing on priuschat so i called the dealer and told him i would take any color except white or black. he called me 3 days later with a salsa #5. i took it. i think the fact that i was fresh in his memory and was flexible got me the car. he told me that the car was on the lot when he called me and he had two different people approach him in the half hour after he called me to ask for the red prius on the lot. ;)

    when i went in to pick up my car, all the dealers looked jealous and one told me that she'd begged one of her customers to take it. she said that particular customer insisted on white #9 and would probably never get it as a 2004.

    it is also my first new car. i am 22 and paying for it with money from my first out of college job. :) actually, i had expected to wait much longer and have more time to save up for it so i ended up borrowing money from my father for the downpayment!
     
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    i think it costs $500 to repaint a car. i considered doing that until i saw how beatiful the red is.
     
  4. Ptpiz

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    I know that the RED is beautiful, but any other color is just NO for me. the dealer actually offered me a WHITE package 7, but i NEED package 9 and would NEVER GET A WHITE CAR, even if my life depended on it
     
  5. efusco

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    Pete,
    You NEED air, you NEED food, you NEED shelter....you WANT the luxury of a package #9. NEVER means never, should you, through some terrible misfortune, find youself in a situation where you have to buy on the most minimal vehicle for the simple purpose of getting you to and from work and such then I bet the color of your car would become a very minimal factor.

    Listen, I'm happy for you that you have the where with all to afford, at the ripe age of 17, a nice car like a package 9 prius or an Acura TL, but the more you emphesis your NEED for those luxuries and NEVER taking a certain color the more you make yourself sound spoiled and immature. There are issues in life where strong words like never and need can and should be used, but for cars are not a reason to use them.

    Good luck in your endeavors, I've given my advice and suggestions in good faith, but you are going to miss out on a lot of growing up by not having to EARN a nice car like this...a real shame really.
    --evan
     
  6. hedwig

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    I like to think my life is more valuable than Salsa Red Pearl. Pretty sure yours is too. :wink:

    Seriously, though, I called my Toyota dealership when I signed up for the white #7 that was available (second to last) about painting. Now yeah, you can take the car to Maaco and have it painted for $500 or so, but I can guarantee you it won't last. Toyota has one of the best paint jobs you can get, and they'll repaint the car for you if you want, but they quoted me $3,000. (I guess they strip down to the primer, take the doors off and all that - it's a much more thorough job, and it's the reliable Toyota paint job, but don't know if it's worth 3K.)
     
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    Pete, you ever notice how whenever you start a new thread it shoots to like 40 posts within just a few hours? :)
     
  8. Ptpiz

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    I know, it is truly amazing! I think that I am the one who always starts the most "interesting" threads! Also, I reply to practically EVERY message personally!
     
  9. jasond

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    Wow, you're a lot more tactful than I would've been...

    When I was in high school, I got a $600 used piece of crap ('77 Ford LTD), and I was one of only a few people I knew who even drove to school.

    Now I'm listening to a 17-year-old complain that he NEEDS a DVD Nav system and bluetooth in his new $30k car. And god forbid it should be an unacceptable color. My heart bleeds, really.

    Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to get back to work so I can earn money to pay for stuff.

    (On a side note, I had two panels repainted on my previous car, a grey Focus, and the Maaco paint job was perfect, at least for the subsequent 3 years until it got totalled)
     
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    Like you, I hate the colour white. Despite this, I've had four white cars, including the Prius I'm now driving. The sun still rises and sets, and the seasons still change. The car still performs as designed as well.

    I'll jump on the bandwagon as well. You don't NEED any of that stuff. My frist car was a 1965 Pontiac Bonneville. I paid $150 for it, and it still drove me to and from school and work. Even at that, the old beater was still a luxury for me, as I lived a whopping mile from both at the time. I was more often, on a bicycle between the two places, thanx both to my hatred of high school, and rules set by my folks to be allowed to drive a car.
     
  11. efusco

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    Realizing that complete shutdown of any listening to "the old guys ranting" has occured I gotta talk about my first car. Lower middle class Arkansas family, they gave me a total of $500 toward my entire college and medical school expenses. My first summer home from College (I had no car up until then) I got an 'opportunity' to buy a '82 blue Mazda GLC 2 door hatch back that the previous owner had rolled over. The damage was pretty minimal with only the back portion of the roof caved in and it had shattered one of those little triangular rear vent-type windows and the other didn't break but couldn't be closed due to warping of the window rim.

    I paid $250 cash that I'd save working at Pizza Inn for about 4 weeks. When I got it the first thing I did was climb into the back seat, laid on my back and kicked the roof up as close as I could get it to the original height. Next, I took some cardboard and made some templates for the 'new' shape of those rear windows and went to a glass shop to have some plexiglass windows made to size. I managed to use coat hangers, and screws to get those in and sealed--they lasted the life of the car.

    I had to get some silicon weather sealer to seal a crack in the roof. Eventually I saved enough to install a Sparkomatic stereo with 9" Sparkomatic speakers--total cost around $90--self installed. I drove that car on dates, multiple trips to college and home, a few long drives here and there. Drove it for 3 years until the engine froze up. I then had to BEG my grandfather to co-sign a loan (that I paid off completely by myself) for a brand new Isuzu P'up. $6500 and my first bad experience with a car dealer who tried to rip me off by giving me a car without A/C when I'd contracted for one with A/C then managed to rip me off for an extended warranty I didn't need...but I did jaw him down to ~$600 from an original $1200 asking price for it.

    I loved those first two cars almost as much as I love my Prius. I was meticulous about vacuuming, washing and caring for them. And most important wasn't that they were the fanciest, coolest, or most expensive car, but that it was MINE and I had earned, paid for and deserved them. Wanna know something... I never once considered that the color of the GLC was Blue or the color of the Isuzu was white...at the time I was thrilled to have a working vehicle of my very own.

    Earning something like this is it's own reward and the fact that you earned it lends a value of it's own. When something comes as a gift or entitlement that sense of pride is lost in petty concerns such as color and luxury features. The Prius is so much more than a feature package and it seems Pete has missed that point completely in his more petty interests. I sincerely feel a little sad for what he's losing by not seeing all this.

    But try telling someone that. Might as well talk to the computer monitor. :cry:
     
  12. jeffrey

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    Ok, I'll get in here too, Pete, but not quite in the same way.

    When we want something really badly it can seem like a *need* when, as Evan so gently pointed out, it is really a *want*, not a need.

    That said, I feel for you my young friend because I was 17 once, too, and if I remember correctly almost everything seemed like a *need* at that time. It was only as the years piled up that the wisdom so casually imparted by the guys above dawned ever so subtlely, making me realise how much things change as we move along this path.

    So, as much as I know you want a black car, and I'm with ya there man, others can be just as ok. I've owned green, blue, white, gold, and, of course, rust-colored cars. They all were exactly what you'd expect when you come down to it: Transportation from A to B.

    Peace, and hang in there, it will be worth it :)
     
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    :idea: In other words... it'll be special to you, because it'll be yours. No matter what it is.

    (And no, I'm not going to make take this further re: it being "your first". If you give the car a female name, that's up to you.) :oops:
     
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    Okay, I'm jumping on this bandwagon now. :)

    My first car was a '87 Chevrolet Cavalier VL (Value Leader) which I purchased myself in 1991. The VL part meant "stupid cheap" which translates into "lots of hard plastic and absolutely no options". Power steering? Nope. Rear Defroster? Nope. GPS? ha.

    Despite all that, it managed to get me through college and through a few years at my first job. I ended up putting 130K miles on it in 7 years, and it was still running at the end. (BTW -- Still running after 130K miles was something of an acomplishment for a late 80s cavalier)

    I guess my needs were different. I wouldn't have died if it was white (it was, but any color would have been fine), and I didn't *need* GPS or Bluetooth. I guess I just wasn't *that* spoiled or bratty.

    I guess if you're 17 and your parents are willing to buy you a car like the Prius, great. I think you're definetly missing out by not learning how to take care of yourself.
     
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    Patience, young grasshopper.
     
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    ...and be grateful. If you're in line for cars like this at 17, IMHO you don't know how good you have it.
     
  19. daniel

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    I recall window-shopping with my sister one day. We saw a huge big-screen TV and she said, "I need one of those." My sister's apartment was not big enough to allow her to sit far enough back to properly enjoy it, but that didn't matter. I replied, "You don't need it, you want it." She looked at me with an expression like a lioness whose cubs have not eaten for a week, and replied, "No. I NEED it!" I guess sometimes frivolous desires can be so intense they really seem like needs to a certain kind of personality.

    Pete - If you need transportation, to get to work or school, any old beater will do. You would like it to be something really nice, like a Prius or a Lexus. I don't blame you. But if you can wait for what you really want, them you didn't need a car in the first place.

    My advice: you're young, you've got time ahead of you, take the time to check around and get the Prius. As someone who loves technological gadgets, it's the car you'll be happy with.