I'm on a well, so whatever I use in the shower, goes back into the ground I tried a low flow, but my water pressure is too high and it broke. That and my well has a high iron content, so I'm sure that didn't help. What I hate are the low GPF toilets that you have to flush 2-3 times to get the average turd or yellow out of it. Not very efficient if you have to flush it several times. I have found the Kohler line to be very good at 1 flush per dump.
While many of the original low flow toilets flushed poorly, many recent designs are excellent. The 1.6 gpf model I installed three years ago flushes better (zero flush failures so far) than every high flow water waster in every home or apartment I've ever lived in.
Timely thread. We had a shower head in need of replacement, and I grabbed a High Sierra based on this discussion. Will report back once it's in and operating. Cheers, Dave
I could not get over American toilets, how can a toilet be designed to use so much water? Do you really need a foot deep and wide lake of water to poo in? Aussie low water use toilets work perfectly every time.
They were not 'designed', they were cobbled together in a time and place where water was nearly free and unlimited. It just makes sense that good low flow designs will first appear in markets where water is more scarce and expensive.
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Some of the new American Standard low flows work really well. They have a two stage flush (not by design) but if you just flip the handle it will flood the bowl for yellow, full flush for turds, all at 1.6 g. As for the Aussies, your turds come out in the opposite direction,, of course it will go down easier! Icarus
How much are your toilets designed to use? The designs I'm looking at don't have a deep water depth and use about 5 liters total. Unlike your Aussie toilets they have a wide enough water spot that it won't be necessary to stare at and smell crap left on the sides of the bowl...either that or clean the toilet each time requiring yet more water. This is off topic anyway.
Saved a lot of water showering last week...used my old REI water bag for solar showers, planned to use it every other day. It would have worked fine if we had more sun and if I could have left it out without rain cooling it or bison messing with it. It was cool and wet in the Badlands so we skipped showers for several days until the weather was more cooperative. Four of us used ~2 gallons total to shower.
Now that I've learned that the sewer charges update here based on winter consumption (had default citywide usage average before that) the economics for cold water reduction have more than doubled! For our showers the water/sewer costs somewhat exceed the water heating cost. My daughter's HighSierra 1.5 gpm will pay out in a little under 11 months. The 1.6 gpm Roadrunner I want is finally in stock, so I've ordered it. With shipping the econ shows it paying out for me in under 10 months. It gets twice as much use.
In the Navy, it was: 1) 15 seconds to wet your body then turn water off, 2) soap up, 3) 15 seconds to rinse off then turn water off. Now if we ran really low on fresh water, it was SALT water showers. Ooooh, was that great!! Personally, I'm not into low-flow showers - would rather shorten the cycle.
So, we've had the High Sierra installed for a bit over a week now. We're quite pleased and will be keeping it. Spray pattern has good coverage, though its strength is a bit less than ideal on the South 40 as it gets a bit misty. Not at all needly or harsh. No complaints from the kids or my wife at all.