Don't agree with your Winter fuel numbers for the 4cyl. Accord. I was able to pull off 8L/100km average during a stint (one week) of -15C weather for one full tank 60% highway/ 40% city. Mind you I was hypermiling and the car was stored in a semi-heated garage.
Indeed very sad. That has been my perennial regret about Alberta especially when the gas prices go up and we are asked by the press to provide hopeful examples of Canadians engaged in any form of eco-minded driving. Alberta consistently ranks near the bottom in this area and to this day, we still do not have a single accomplished member in that area of the country that we can refer for interviews regarding fuel efficient driving. Cheers; MSantos
Hi technoratic; Indeed. Much can be said about what these cars (Camry and Accord) can achieve since it all depends on driving regimens and technique. By using even the mildest of hypermiling techniques (DWB, DWL, ridge riding,etc ) these cars will be able to better their NR-CAN ratings by at least 20% even in winter routines, provided that the trip distances are long enough. But if experience is any indication, the average Canadian driver is a collossal example of bad driving habits and he/she is usually un-aware that their cars can do better than what they usually achieve. With this said and taking into account what these cars can do in a urban environment side by side with a contemporary hybrid, the real consumption figures can be sobering and eye opening, to say the least. Like I said, place a scangauge on a typical Accord or Camry and let the numbers tell the story. If you do so, then also consider doing it on a variety of regimens (urban, suburban and highway) and trip distances just to be a bit more representative of a vehicles inherent strenght and weaknesses. Sadly, the mainstream Canadian press is not yet up to that task but they are learning... Anyhow, until that happens I suspect the online community and their mileage databases will remain the best way to assess a vehicle's fuel economy potential. Cheers MSantos
Talked to my dealer today, and apparently my car is on a boat and should be here in a week to 10 days. There will be a national release date and cars will be on lots for demo & sale on that date. It looks like the wait is finally winding down...
So they're still shipping them and storing them in warehouses. I guess they're stock piling, anticipating the initial rush.
Hello, I reserved today a blue 2010 Prius with the Premium package+solar cell moonroof in Montreal. I guess that it is old news but the seller confirmed me that it will be available on the official canadian unveil on june 16th OR june 18th. The price won't be available until that day. He also said he will receive the official canadian brochure in 3-4 days. He also said that it was easier to get a premium+moonroof or an advanced technology package than the Base prius or Base + premium package only. He also confirmed that the white pearl color won't be available until july. So that's it ... now waiting until next week ... Alex
My Car is on it's way and supposed to arrive at the dealership next monday (the 15th) Blue Ribbon Tech Package. Got the Vin Number and was told a couple other pieces of information. Financing will be 4.9% for 3 years and 5.9% for 4 and 5 years. Sales won't begin till around the 18th but 48 hours notice will be given for pricing. So I'd expect pricing to be released on the 16th and sales to begin on the 18th.
When I placed my deposit for a base, the sales guy also confirmed the same story, they've been shipping them and storing them in warehouses throughout Canada.
That makes sense. That'll also clear up the two datse that are floating around. PP w/ SPM or AT? really? They're really pushing for the solar panels aren't they?
I'm getting a Blizzard Pearl and have been told it will be here close to the release date of the 18th, but definitely before the 25th. So they're will be some before July (but correct that there weren't any on the first shipment). The 16th/18th pricing/release definitely clears up a lot of our confusion. 1 MORE WEEK!
I would not bet on that ! Last year, the canadian dealers where very reluctant to reduce the price of their cars and gave all sorts of justification for not revise the pricing !
I'm thinking there might be a chance for some reduction given that their sales is in the toilet right now...
Parity? haha unlikely. A Cdn$22,000 Prius will absolutely turn the market upside-down (why buy the TCH or any Honda hybrid in that case). Heck, at that price, it's only a few hundred over a Corolla LE with Moonroof Package and only a midrange Civic LX-SR.
Well should we take some cracks at it? Here are mine. It's kind of skewed because "D" is the only one that really comes with the add-ons. Packages: A - 25,000 (Base) B - 26,500 (Base with some minor upgrades) C - 28,500 (+ Solar) D - 35,500 (+ Solar, + Nav, +Leather, +ATP) E - 30,000 (Base in 17's/LEDs with minor upgrades)
I Like your pricing scheme Tdot Even if we get $1000 off the current base 2009 price due to high CDN dollar, I'd be a happy camper
This is what the Pruis would be priced at if we simply used the US pricing and exchanged it into CDN...I think everyone would love to see prices like these, but it seems highly unlikely. US models. Prius II - $25,300 Prius III - $26,412 Prius IV - $29,541 Prius V - $31,191 Based on the current 0.898 exchange on June 10. If the Canadian pricing is a whole lot higher then this I'm going to be looking south of the border to import one.
My guess would be : 1,500 over those numbers. I ordered the "D" package and I'm expecting 37,500 (Including the delivery and prep. fees)
Well if freight & PDI are normally around 1200, then we're on the same page. I just put what I think they will advertise at.
We'll wait and see, but, if history repeats itself, you can expect a roughly CAD $8000-$10000 price difference between US and Canadian prices. That was the price difference when I imported my '07 from the US (exchange rate at the time: USD 1$ = CAD $1.06). Why? Why not? Apparently Toyota has been able to get away with it. All told, i saved roughly $8,000, even after factoring in customs, import fees etc. And back then you had the $2,000 federal rebate, which did not apply to imported vehicles. So the _real_ difference was $10,000 (no more federal rebate). Maybe Toyota have learned their lesson, and will price it closer to US, but I doubt it. Just one example - they charged TWICE the "destination fee" for a vehicle that was delivered in Vancouver than for one that was delivered in Seattle. If the difference will be >$5K, and the exchange rate keeps improving, I'll be importing yet another Prius.