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Factory EV Button installed - details

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Audio and Electronics' started by HTMLSpinnr, Mar 28, 2004.

  1. HTMLSpinnr

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    First of all - thanks Tosh for arranging the import of these buttons!

    Second of all - this task really isn't suitable for the novice.

    Now that I've said that, here's details:

    I've installed the EV switch using a factory switch and adapter housing. I constructed my own harness of sorts, and tapped existing wires for illumination and ground.

    Tools used:
    15ft of 22 gauge wire - 24 gauge recommended for EV + connector
    4 connectors from plug kit (mentioned below)
    3 telephone style taps from radio shack (p/n below)
    Wire connector crimper ($5 Walmart job does just fine)
    soldering iron and solder
    Needle nosed pliars
    1/4" flat head screwdriver
    1/16" or smaller miniature screwdriver
    Multimeter or continuity tester
    Electrical tape
    Head mounted flash light (maglite with head-strap)
    Patience
    Digicam
    EV button and housing imported from Japan (Europe works too :-P)

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    I used Evan's installation instructions. The only difference is that I used the factory button, and had to construct the harness for this, and tap the appropriate wires. I also installed the button and wiring first, then ran the EV positive to the ECU using a coat hanger. I also disassembled more of the dash to facilitate wiring, however this was probably an uneeded step for those who are good w/ the coat hanger.

    First thing was to come up with some workable connectors. After checking with a Toyota dealer (Power Toyota Irvine), radio shack, and a few auto parts stores, I discovered a local store in Lake Forest, CA called RVAC Electronics. They have alot of old stuff just strewn everywhere, however they had something that appeared that it could work. Turns out that a Philmore Branded .156 Lock Socket (Polarized 4 position - part number 70-6854) had enough connectors for me to play with - 8. Good thing - I ended up using 5 - one was an "experiment". At 82 cents ($0.82) after tax, it wasn't a huge loss if they didn't work.

    Picture of connectors:
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    Once I figured out that they were the perfect width, and were shaped in a way that I could insert them and have them semi-retained, I began constructing the harness. First I stripped 1/8" off one end of each wire, then crimped and soldered connecters to 4 lengths of 22 gauge stranded wire (note - 24 gauge would have been a bit easier, I'll explain later). I initially cut the lenghts to 3 x 24in and 1 x 75in. In the end, it turns out that 12 inches was more than enough for the 3 short leads, and that 60 inches was probably fine for the longer lead - leave room to screw up though :).

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    To install into the plug housing, I alignined the small locking tab (near the base) on the connector with the retaining clip in the housing and inserted. They will push all the way through if you go too far, however you'll know it's far enough when the connectors click and you can't pull them back out the way they came in. If they don't retain, they're in upside down.

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    I then plugged everything in (first time will be a bit tight while the connectors bend into place - the tabs on the EV button ride up over the top of the connectors, but they do provide a good enough connection). Then I tested the continuity between wires 1 and 2 (~50ohm is good, it's a light bulb), and the continuity between wires 3 and 4 with the button depressed. I then labeled each wire at both ends (pin 1 IL +, pin 2 IL -, pin 3 EV +, and pin 4 EV -), and wrapped with electrical tape. Don't forget to label - while the long wire is obvious, it's easy to confuse the shorter wires.

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    With the harness constructed, I took the "kit" out to the car, and proceeded to disassemble the areas per the other instructions. I also pulled apart the portion where the EV button and illumination dimmer resided for easier access - this just pulls out once you have the vent removed.

    Next, remove the dimmer harness from the dimmer. I found it easier to remove the switch from the hole by squeezing the upper and lower retaining tabs and pushing the switch out. This harness is wrapped with some rubber which is somewhat glued together. It's easy to separate, and no cutting is required. Separate about 3-5 inches back, then note the red, grey, and white with black stripe wires. These will be used for illumination and EV ground.

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    After trimming the 3 short leads to a reasonable size, using green Radio Shack Telephone taps (RS part number 64-3081, I tapped the IL(+) lead - pin 1 - to the grey wire from the dimmer harness, the IL(-) lead - pin 2 - to the red wire from the dimmer harness, and the EV(-) - pin 4 - to the white/black stripe wire from the dimmer harness. I then taped the wires together, and then closed the rubber coating as best as I could, using electrical tape to hold it together.

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    After that, I tested the EV button illumination by plugging in the dimmer to the plug, and turning on the parking lights. Success should yield an illuminated EV button which is brightness adjustable.

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    Next came the time consuming part. After removing the glovebox and right vent (not really neccesary, but makes it a bit easier to see), I fished an straighted coat hanger through the area behind/under the MFD to the dirvers side dash. My dash was partially disassembled, so I could see the hanger. I then attached the wire to the hanger (had a loop at the end), and pulled it on through. I taped the wire on both ends to an existing loom to keep it from moving around, and to make peering technicians less leary about a stray wire floating around.

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    Up to this point, I hadn't attached the pin (I had obtained 6 the night before from the headlight/flasher assembly), and ended up using 3 of them due to trial and error). This is where 24 gauge would have made things a bit easier. The insulation on the 22 gauge is a bit too wide to slide into the pin without using the probe on my mulitmeter and a very small (1/16") screwdriver to widen the hole. Having done that, and then pushing the wiring firmly into place (no stripping required), and then crimping the stretched connector back together, I tested the continuity of the pin by touching the + of a multimeter to the pin, and the - to a chassis ground. I then reached over and pressed the EV to ensure that I was making contact.

    I then followed the instructions on inserting the pin. The pin IS DIFFICULT to insert. I found that using a spare in and inserting 1-2 times to "stretch the hole" made final insertion a bit easier. It appears these pins aren't a perfect fiit, but rather do the job if you choose not to use the Toyota parts. I also found that the metal doesn't need to be below the plastic, but flush. The retaining clip won't close all the way, but I discovered that most of the way is enough to get the plug back in. On my third pin, I settled on almost all the way in, with .5mm of metal still showing. I tested, and we worked.

    Side notes. I tried to start the car w/o the 4th plug on the HV ecu plugged in. This was because I Feared my 12v battery could be running low due to my continued use of interior lighting (it's dark outside where my car parks). I had also unplugged the power button in order to remove that part of the dash for easier threading of the wire. Subsequently once the HV ECU was plugged back in, I had a check engine light with a red car with an exclimation (!) mark within. This went away after 3 or so restarts. I was a bit scared though - didn't want to explain to the service advisor why I felt I had a check-engine light... :oops:

    I spent enough time to exhaust a set of AA batteries on my little maglight, and also managed to burn out a bulb mid-job. I found it very useful to use a head-strap for the mag-lite so that I had light on my job at all times. I wouldn't recommend inadequate lighting for this task.

    All in all this took me two nights to complete, plus half a day of running around trying to find connectors. The first night was more exploratory, as well as retrieving the pins from the flasher. The second night, I had my wires and tools, and got the job done in about 4-5 hours. A bulk of the time was spent fishing the wire across (45 min) and inserting the pin (bent one, and took nearly an hour trying to ensure that I was doing it correctly). Dash assembly and disassembly goes quick thanks to the plastic clips - it's pretty much a tool free task to remove the panels.

    EV is pretty cool - I did test the limits both speed wise and throttle wise. Surprising, but it's not going to let you overdo it on the battery.

    Enjoy - let me know if you have questions.

    -Rick
     
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    Great job, Rick!
    Authentic look is important!
     
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    I still haven't read where torque is an issue while using the EV mode, so I'll ask.

    My stock Prius seems to be willing to use battery-only on flat roads, and usually recharges while going downhill, but uphill brings on the ICE even if the incline is so slight you barely notice it.

    Will EV mode stay battery-only up a fairly steep hill, or does the ICE kick in just when gravity does?...
     
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    EV mode has a couple of triggers which will, reportedly, turn it off automatically. I think they are listed in the knowledge base area (I know I found them somewhere on this site).
     
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    Thank you, Rick! I hope this article is preserved in the Knowledge Base section.
     
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    Great description, Rick. If you get a chance, please copy and paste your post's code as an article in the KNowledge Base - it'll be a great addition to Evan's article.
     
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    This is great. Anyone have any ideas on how to arrange a larger group buy? Someone to buy in Europe or Japan, and/or someone to collect funds here?
     
  8. HTMLSpinnr

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    Done - feel free to editorialize it where neccesary.
     
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    I was coming up a moderate hill yesterday in EV mode. I know the ICE would have normally kicked in on the hill, but with EV on, it didn't unless I gave it some pretty good accelerator pressure. I'm not sure the hill would be considered "steep", but it's a decent grade where I normally get about 20-25mpg maintaining 25-30 mph. I was able to maintain these speeds w/o the ICE kicking in.

    Note - if the ICE kicks in, and you still want EV, I found that backing off on the pressure, and pressing the EV button again will reset it.

    On a more general note, I think the one thing I'm "missing" is the lack of an EV status display on the dash. If the logic is there, perhaps we can figure out a kit (Coastal Dave?) to add an LED of sorts.
     
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    I know when our source bought them, the place they were ordered from in Japan would not ship overseas directly, but instead had to be bought and shipped locally, then personally shipped overseas.

    In the end, the price was about $30 from a lot of ~15 or so after all shipping costs and currency exchange was considered.

    As you can see from one of my pics, these are genuine Toyota parts. I would highly suggest obtaining the housing as well as the switch to anyone who negotiates another buy. I tried .111" spade connectors at an electronics store and they are too tight/small to use with insulation, and without, could present a short hazard unless wrapped with tape. If the connectors could also be obtained that go inside the housing, that would make the install alot easier and a bit more authentic, however, as I've shown, others can be made to work.
     
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    Why don't you buy similar standard /genuine Toyota button in the US "SWITCH ASSY, BLANK" and order just appropriate sticker which you can put on this button?
    These kind of buttons (housing and other related parts) are surely used by Toyota for other functions, models.
     
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    Good Job, Rick! I'm glad my effort has been rewarded. Thank you for being a pioneer to install it. Just went out to Fry's to find the $.82 Philmore socket. What I found was $2.39 Molex but it looks exactly the same. A little more damage :-p

    boa8, do you know the part number for the blank switch assy? It would be a good alternative solution for people who could not make it to the group buy list.

    Thanks,
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    Salsa Red BC + temporary EV button
     
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    > The retaining clip won't close all the way

    I'm convinced that there is only one correct
    way to insert the socket out of the four
    possible ways. There is a notch one side of
    the socket that the retainer probably fits into.

    I ended up ravaging two sockets before I
    had a good result the third time. I'm calling
    a socket what other have called a pin. I
    believe that is is the female part.
     
  14. HTMLSpinnr

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    Why don't you buy similar standard /genuine Toyota button in the US "SWITCH ASSY, BLANK" and order just appropriate sticker which you can put on this button?
    These kind of buttons (housing and other related parts) are surely used by Toyota for other functions, models.[/quote]

    This would be a non-illuminated version. The EV button is transparent where the lettering is - not painted or stickered.

    I prefer the illuminated version myself :) But the other part could be used if the import becomes impossible...
     
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    After my third pin (socket probably is correct), I felt that almost in and almost closed was almost good enough, as it was fully functional.

    The sockets we're using probably aren't an exact fit for that location, but for a slightly larger housing or section (pins 1-6?).
     
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    If it works, could you post the part number of the Molex? It would be nice to have a list of "parts" which will "work". Fry's was going to be my next stop if the Philmore part didn't work. Glad to know they have something too.
     
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    Rick,

    Just got it done, didn't do the illumination part, though. My baby was left alone and my wife was upset. Bad daddy!

    The Molex part number is WMLX-207. "KK Standard Crimp Terminals for .156 center housings" is the name. Locking it inside the housing was a bit tricky.
     
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    Fortunately when you get there, the illumination is the easiest part since the wires to tap are close to the EV button. Good luck when you get the time! :)
     
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    That's good news, hopefully I'll get my button tomorrow and I'll try to get that installed. Gotta pick up some taps and the weird little connectors--I don't have a good picture of what those entail yet...
     
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    Do you have a part number on that? I'm trying to tap a in-law of mine that has a fiance living in Japan right now.


    Xo