Petition to remove allow use of NAV & BT during movement

I am game. Start a thread and tell us what needs to be done.

 

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Go to Coastaletech and buy THIS

 

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I think you miss the point being made by the writer.

Why should we have to go to the aftermarket and spend additional money to get something that's already built into the system and disabled by Toyota?

I would support a letter writing campaign or petition. Let's get a new thread started and do some brainstorming.

 

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I'm sure this is related to fear of lawsuits. I'd bet that the European version of the Nav system doesn't do that. I doubt that a letter writing campaign would make a difference.

 

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What's to lose? All it takes is a stamp and a few minutes time.

 

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I'm sure this is related to fear of lawsuits. I'd bet that the European version of the Nav system doesn't do that. I doubt that a letter writing campaign would make a difference.
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Does any manufacturer put one in a car that is not disabled while driving? Even the aftermarket installed in Avis rentals are disabled. You can write all you want, the legal departement won't budge on this issue. It will be the peson not in a Toyota that sues when someone adjusting the Nav/BT slams into someone in a crosswalk. While it may not be technically illegal, doing anything distracting is in my state. Also, it is illegal to have a DVD player upfront for the driver to see, but many are installed that work while driving for the driver. But not by the auto makers.

 

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Hondas, at least for the NAV.

 

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BMW NAV

 

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I think you miss the point being made by the writer.
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I didn't miss the point. I was showing him a way to get it done. If he wants to go the other route, good luck.

 

I hope all the people interested in this are ready for the consequences.

"I demand the ability to have the radio messages, etc., available while driving" had better not be followed by "I demand compensation for being distracted by those radio messages, etc., and having an accident".

I'd expect Toyota to require a signed affidavit when the car is retrofitted, with YOUR lawyer's co-signature agreeing that it's all your fault if something goes wrong, along with your agreeing that your lawyer was competent to say it's all your fault, etc.

No last-minute cries that you didn't know your children's lives were actually at risk by this. No nothing. With responsibility for your actions completely in your hands, THEN have the work done.

As it stands, I wonder who will be first to sue Coastal after an accident in a NAV-modded car, no matter what Coastal's disclaimer says?...

 

I think it should be okay to use those functions while driving, but only if you're smoking a cigarette, eating a meal, drinking a beer and holding a cell phone to your head at the same time.

If you think smoking is unsafe feel free to substitute shaving or applying lipstick.

Is it that big a deal to pull over for the 1 minute it would take to put in the info you want. Yes, I know it's inconvenient, but so is running into something/someone while you're trying to decide whether it was Juan's Taco Emporium or Juan's Taco Stop that you wanted to go to.

 

Re: Petition to remove allow use of NAV & BT during move

To me, the issue isn't that the Prius prevents me from using the NAV system while driving. The issue to me is that it prevents the passenger from using the NAV system while driving. If we're driving down the freeway looking for someplace to eat, it is entirely a big deal to pull over for 1 minute to use the NAV system to find something convenient.

 

Re: Petition to remove allow use of NAV & BT during move

agreed on the passenger point.

i actually received a ticket years ago in Ohio on the Turnpike, where you were not allowed to pull off the road unless it was an emergency.

it probably didn't help that I was urinating in broad daylight (trying to slouch against a bridge abutment or something) when the trooper pulled up. to me, it should've qualified, though.

rpm

 

Re: Petition to remove allow use of NAV & BT during move

Porche NAV isn't movement disabled.

This is about free-will and choice, and the removal of it. Why not make celphones movement disabled while you're at it?

 

Re: Petition to remove allow use of NAV & BT during move

My wife and I will be getting our Prius next week (2005 Silver #6). Our local dealer had a buyer back out before it was delivered and we were the first people who came in to look for one. Needless to say I am not too informed about what the systems do.

So I know that I can't set the Nav system while the car is moving. But is it also correct that I can't use a bluetooth phone while driving?

Thanks
Rick

 

Just because it's not illegal to use while driving, doesn't mean the driver or auto maker couldn't be liable. Liability is often determined after the fact.

A fair compromise would be functions enabled if someone's in the passenger's seat. Presumably the sensor's already there for the airbag system. That would satisfy a "reasonable" standard of care for the automaker.

I'm planning on installing the coastaltech switch, but fear I'll start using the system while driving. As it is, I'm using the screen far too often while driving.

 

Re: Petition to remove allow use of NAV & BT during move

I've seen someone watching a DVD while driving on the freeway, and many times reading the newspaper. Toyota is just being proactive and not just saying you should not, but making it so you can't. I believe they should allow it to be used so the passenger can adjust it. Maybe a weight senor like the one for the airbags. Then you could override that and do it anyway.

Also since I don't have one, can you tell me doesn't it respond to voice commands? Then you could tell it to find fuel, food or whatever.