2010 prius to sell for up to $4k over MSRP, do i buy a 2009 or wait to see if 2010's sell at msrp

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If you go to a dealership looking for a Prius and the dealer doesn't at least try to sell you an 09, he's not a very good salesman. That's not to say a dealer should lie, which is what this one definitely did.

Frankly, if the 2010 wasn't so darned appealing, I would get an 09 and save a lot of money in the process.

 

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I have a hard time believing that the 2010 Prius will generally sell for even one penny over MSRP when it's released in the Spring.

Can someone name one mass market car routinely selling over MSRP right now?

The 2010 Prius is a very good positive evolution of the Gen II Prius. I like it a lot. But it's not revolutionary.

And even if gas prices were to rise to over $4 a gallon again, I don't see that as causing a mad rush to buy the new Prius for its projected 50 MPG.

The economic situation isn't the same as it was in 2008 when gas prices first went over $4 a gallon. It's gotten worse. It's tanked all over the world. People have a lot less money than they had in 2008. Their savings and investments have halved. Their homes have plummeted in value. Millions have lost their jobs. And banks have cut lending drastically.

So what again are the conditions this dealer is citing to justify his statement that the 2010 Prius will sell for $4000 over MSRP?

Sounds like hooey.

 

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I predict the fully loaded 2010 Prius will have a $40000 MSRP. Offer invoice for a 2009 or wait & offer invoice for a 2010. I doubt you'll find any auto dealer with more customers than employees. Things aren't going to get better this year because IMO we haven't seen (much less hit) bottom. Maybe I'm wrong & the Recovery Fairy will sprinkle some Magic Pixie Dust & whack us in the back of the head with her wand in time for the Prius' debut on dealer lots. She's already too late for Pontiac, Saturn, and the PT Cruiser.

 

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No way. That's Hybrid Highlander territory. Much more vehicle than a Prius.

I say $33.5k bottom line MSRP, sticker price for the Platinum 2010.

 

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As a former Toyota Factory Guy, the Orange County/L.A. market Car prices have a premium as the car culture capital of the U.S. so dealers will try to get away with as high a price as possible because Southern Cal people want to all be the first on the block with eye candy in the form of a new car. Spend $50 for an air ticket to the Bay Area to shop at more reasonable dealers

In Northern Cal, I am very certain we will be looking at Prices below MSRP given the local econ, lost jobs, 30% Hit in housing values and 40% hit in stock prices, No IPO's for Startups.

My concern is that many Prius buyers may normally have targeted the Fully Loaded $30K Model may be more price sensitive and want more of a base model at $22K so I really hope Toyota will allocate 40%+ of Prius to Base Models so they can hit the right price points in this new economy and compete against Honda Insight and lower priced left over 2009 Prius Models.

 

Re: 2010 prius to sell for up to $4k over invoice, do i buy a 2009 or wait to see if 2010's sell at

Yep.

To the OP:
Are you ok w/the plan to lease for an 09 3 years and have no car at the end or pay extra to buy it?

$4K over MSRP for 2010 Prius would be insane. Run away! But, which is it? $4K over invoice or $4K over MSRP? Your post and message title contradict each other.

Since we have neither value right now, I'd say one shouldn't pay above MSRP given this horrible economy, low gas prices and horrible US auto sales.

By horrible sales, see http://www.autoblog.com/tag/ByTheNumbers/ paying particular attention to sales in the most recent months.

As I posted in another thread:
Are you REALLY set on the Prius? How about the Insight when we find out the price? What about non-Toyota hybrids esp. if you don't need the hatchback design and as good mileage? See New Energy Tax Credit for Hybrids for tax credit amounts. Honda and Toyota/Lexus hybrid tax credits are at $0.

(My mom owns a leftover 07 Altima Hybrid she bought in Feb 08.)

 

Re: 2010 prius to sell for up to $4k over invoice, do i buy a 2009 or wait to see if 2010's sell at

Nothing will be selling for msrp in 2010 for more than a month or two. I guarantee it.

 

Re: 2010 prius to sell for up to $4k over invoice, do i buy a 2009 or wait to see if 2010's sell at

The 2010 Prius is expected to arrive in dealerships starting in May, but official pricing has not yet been released by Toyota. As is normal for any new product release, we expect to sell the first arrivals at MSRP, and any discounts to happen once there is a greater supply. As far as paying over MSRP, that is a decision made by each dealership, but you will probably find the most reputable dealers do not engage in this short-sighted practice.

 

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So is the consensus: "Don't get on a priority list now, rather wait until '010s are out to get a better deal"?? I realize we're not tied into anything by being on the priority list, but our dealer is saying if we do want the car we're asking for, we will be paying MSRP, no exceptions.

 

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Unless the economy changes dramatically and oil gets back above $100/gallon there will be plenty of Priuses to go around. How many are on the dock in long beach as we speak with nowhere to go?

 

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That's a personal decision only you can answer. What's more important to you?
Price? --> then wait a while
Colors/Options? --> you may have to wait a while
Delivery in June? --> you probably should be willing to pay MSRP. No two buyers' economic situations are the same. In the brginning when supply is short MSRP is the market price. The Longo poster explained it well.

 

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I bought my 2007 package 4 Prius in Nov 2006 with $2000.00 under MSRP.

So my prediction for 2010 Prius is $2K to 5k under MSRP include rebate depend on the package after (the 1st delivery) 4 months. Select your car on the lot (not special order).

 

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I "ordered" my (okay, my wife's ) 2010 Prius today! I won't proclaim to be an expert in ordering a Toyota Prius, however, I believe that some people's understanding of the "order" process isn't entirely accurate. Unlike many cars and trucks manufactured by US car makers, when you "order" a Toyota, you don't actually place an order with the exact package and accessories, and then have the factory build that vehicle expressly for you.

Instead, I believe that Toyota dealerships will simply compile a list of people who want to purchase one and then they try to get one, as close as they can get to what you want, from a distribution point in the United States. I've spoken with several dealers in and around the Chicago area, and most want you to give them a couple of "acceptable colors." I even had one show me (on the 2008 and 2009) the number or percentage of each package, color, and accessory combination that were scheduled to be sent to the region.

The last time I ordered a new Ford pickup, I ordered it exactly as I wanted, and was able to get the VIN before the truck was even completely built. I tracked it from the build date to the arrival at my dealer. The last Prius I ordered ended up having a couple extra accessories I didn't want, but it was very close.

My dealer doesn't even have final package information, colors, or pricing. They said they think there is some type of informational "training" in March, and they will contact me after that with an update. So my "order" is simply being on "the list" of buyers, and nothing will be finalized until the car, closest to what I specified, actually arrives.

In summary...lol, my suggestion is to contact your dealer, get on "the list" and see what happens when it comes in. If someone actually has an order form from a dealer, with specific package identifiers, colors, and prices, I'd love to hear about it.

 

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I wouldn't bother getting on a dealer's list unless the dealer gave some assurance of price related to msrp. Those lists are comparabe to the days of people camping out over night to buy homes in the bubble-licious house boom days.

 

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In this economy, they may have all they can do to sell the 2010s AT MSRP, let alone above. Remember, the dealer lots are going to be flooded with new American cars at literally give-away prices. And then Honda and VW TDI will have matched, if not surpassed Prius mileage at a lower MSRP. The new car buying market, if there is one in 2010/2011, is going to be very price-conscious. Those few new car buyers aren't mainly the tree-hugging greenie Prius crowd - they're the price-be-damned Mercedes crowd.

 

Re: 2010 prius to sell for up to $4k over invoice, do i buy a 2009 or wait to see if 2010's sell at

Don't think for a minute that only American cars are being effected by the current depression. The local Honda and Toyota dealers lots are overflowing with unsold vehicles including row after row of the current model Prius.

Are you serious, uniformed or just trolling? The TDI has a combined EPA of 33 mpg on high priced diesel fuel and the Insight has a combined EPA of 41 mpg which is 5 mpg less than the current Prius and 9 mpg from the projected 2010 Prius numbers. Not matched, not surpassed, not even close.

I agree dealers will be doing good to get MSPR for a short period. After the initial rush the price of the new Prius will come down as nothing is going to sell very well as the current state of affairs worldwide will drag on at least through 2010 before showing and signs of turning things around.

 

Re: 2010 prius to sell for up to $4k over invoice, do i buy a 2009 or wait to see if 2010's sell at

Just wait for the Honda Insight and then see. A couple more months to go. Gas is still under $2.50. I have a '05 Prius and consider the New Honda Insight a great alternative because you can drive normally and still save gas. 2010 Prius will save "a lot" more gas when do the Very Conservative drive style.

 

Re: 2010 prius to sell for up to $4k over invoice, do i buy a 2009 or wait to see if 2010's sell at

My bad. I meant "alternative to 2010 Prius." Not going to trade-in for a Insight. Maybe a Hybrid CR-Z or Subaru Hybrid in 4-5 years.