Driving an SUV is less expensive than driving a hybrid car

i got my prius at 60 months at 4.9 %
carpayments are 533.60
i pay 125.00 a month on insurance, mostly because of the 40 mile drive to work
if i told the inusrance company i drive less then i actually do i could drop it down to $750
i drive 1600 -2105 miles a month

the car recycling industry states that at the end of life, they are getting close to a 70% recycling rate no matter what car or suv you have. so no matter what you drive 30% or so cannot be reused

your figures assume you will buy the prius and have it financed, then keep it forver and never sell it off. you should factor in selling the car / trading the car in at the end of 60 months. a lot of prius cars i have been reading are selling for a couple grand more then what kbb says, because of the high demand. before only a prius car with carpool stickers would earn this bonus, now it seems with the demand and the price of gas, the non stickered used cars are going for what the stickered cars just a couple years ago

19200 miles a year /45 miles per gallon * 3.759 = 1603.84
19200 miles a year / 20 miles per gallon * 3.759 = 3608.64

thats 2004.80, x 5 years, thats 10,000.00 of fuel i do not have to buy, well thats based of 3.759 a gallon and a fixed 45 mpg. a lot of people are getting more or less mpg....

p.s. you are stupid for buying a 1996 4runner with comprehensive and collission on it. the insurance company is probably only going to shell out a maximuum of $3,000 if you totaled it out. you can save a lot of money by dropping comprehensive and colliision. you are probably paying an extra 500 - 2000.00 a year extra on theft insurance just to collect 3,000.00 on the chance your car is totaled out or stolen

and from owning a toyota pickup truck, i think the regular tacoma pick up / hilux pickup will sell less for what a 4runner sells for, get better gas mileage and be able to carry more stuff.... tacomas started to sell in 1995 1/2, it came with an air bag. and the hilux lacked an air bag. these pickups would probably be cheaper in maintainance costs too


reccomendation : call your insurance company, cancel the theft coverage, buy a lojack for 695.00, do not tell anyone not even your wife your buying the lojack and you stand a good chance of getting your 4 runner back if its stolen. and at one time or another toyota pickup trucks were the #1 stolen car in the united states. back then toyota dealers would sell you an immobolizer that used an extra key to prevent your 4 runner by being stolen, but the problem with that is, back in 1995, every pick up truck on the lot, at my local dealer, had the same key code.

 

Congrats. You just proved two things: A) buying a used car is cheaper than buying a new car and B) the annual cost of a new car, assuming it is financed with a loan AND counting the loan payment, is less than the annual cost of a used car (or any car, for that matter), assuming it is paid for with cash AND ignoring the cash payment. A is obvious. B is stupid.

 

It's ok.. he drives an SUV.. he has no brain...

 

"subdrvr": You don't realize that many of us actually owned SUVs before we got our Priuses, and we know just how wrong you are from our own experiences of owning both.

Here's a helpful hint: Trying to lecture hybrid owners when you don't actually know anything about one just makes you look stupid.

 

The Suvdvr has a point in that, driving a Prius is not a good way to save money. Is this a novel or insightful statement? No.

Best way to save money is to buy and old Honda civic beater, used echo etc. Everyone (here at least) knows that. For people who insist on buying new, However, a Prius is likely a better choice over a new Camry but a worse financial choice than buying a new Yaris. You can decide for yourself whether a Yaris is comparable to a Prius. For example, as I understand it, a hybrid civic is a bit of a poor choice (again, from a strictly financial perspective) over a traditional Civic.

These discussion can go around forever until people decide what apples and oranges to compare.

Oh yeah, lay off 'getting off foriegn oil thing'. Lots of Canadian rely on America's insatiable thirst for gas!

 

Seriously...

In spite of the advanced academic credentials generally associated with the Prius owners' demographic, you folks can be an extremely gullible bunch.

Stop feeding the trolls.

:behindsofa:

 

Hi All,

Well, yet another apples to oranges comparison. The used SUV / Pickup is not going to last as long. So, if you do the expenses to the time at the end of the life of the Prius, your going to have to include the cost of purchasing at least a second, and possibly a third used pickup/suv.

And yet again, the uniformed are forgetting about brake maintenance costs. The Prius needs one front brake job, and a rear brake cleaning for 200K miles. The suv/pickup can be as worse as doing a front brake job every 30K miles, and the rears every 60K miles. So, after 200 K miles of driving, that is 6 front brake jobs, and 3 rear brake jobs, or about $3000 if you have them done at a shop.

 

Re: Seriously...

Trolls have little to establish credibility with anymore.

The real-world data clearly outweighs any anti-hybrid argument nowadays. It was quite a struggle years ago to convince doubters that the batteries wouldn't all fail at 100,001 miles and that gas would end up costing quite a bit more than $1.59 per gallon.

Now, absurd first-posts like that are simply a source of entertainment. Comparing a 12 year old SUV to a brand new Prius wasn't even the slightest bit objective. Yet, it was attempted anyway.

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my 1995 toyota hilux never needed its rear brakes done in 140k miles. i had it looked at once at midas and all they did was take the drum off and blow all the brake dust out and that was it.

it was always the front pads and discs/rotors that needed frequent work done, it was like 200-300 dollars every 30k miles

at 140,000 miles or so i charged up like $2000 worth of work at my local dealer, like a bunch of stuff, like replacing gaskets
went down to the autoparts store, bought a new headlight, and then a week later i rear ended an older pickup and totalted it out, then
i bought a prius, because i was sick of driving stripped down toyota pick up trucks with no air conditioning, carpeting, etc


can u measure the rear brake pad on a prius without removing the drum? on the hilux the rear brake drum looked pretty much
sealed up with the brake pads inside

 

Well, my 2008 Prius doesn't have rear brake drums.. disks all round.

So that's a "Yes"...

 

Did you actually think that you would:
1) Be the first person in the world to pop into a PRIUS ONLY forum with an anti-Prius spiel?
2) Convince anyone here that you are right.
3) Think that anyone here actually cares about what you have to say?

Really kid, is there not some somewhere else you could troll?

 

I have a 1968 Toyota Crown, it cost me $3000 about 4 years ago and I could likely sell it tomorrow for $4500. I use about 1.5 75 litre tanks of fuel a year as I only drive it 4 or 5 days a year. I guess I need to sell the Prius, I stuffed up buying it. Thanks to the OP for pointing this out to me.

This post makes as much sense as the OPs.

 

it probably costs the op 120 bucks to fill up a week, so thats 480 a month not to mention all the repair costs for his brain

 

his 4runner is probably crap, its probably got the same 22re 2400cc engine as the stock toyota pickup, except it has to drag around an extra 1200 pounds of weight

 

Both the first and second generation 4Runners became targeted as unsafe SUVs. 1980s and early-1990s US crash regulations were not very strict for light trucks, and all early model 4Runners were fitted with doors that offered little protection in the event of a side collision. In most areas, there was little more than two pieces of sheetmetal and the window to keep incoming vehicles from impacting passengers. The crash test rating for the second generation 4Runner was one star for the driver's side in a frontal collision although the passenger side got a 4 star rating. Later, more stringent crash regulations mandated doors that offered as much protection as passenger car doors.
The most common accusations, however, were that 4Runners (and other narrow-track SUVs of the time) were prone to rollovers. Many light SUVs of the time featured comparatively high centers of gravity and, given the right situations, could be flipped over. Whether or not this is a serious road hazard is dependent on many parameters, including the speed of the vehicle, the tires fitted to the vehicle, the road surface, and the driver's ability to predict and correct for situations that may result in a rollover. Third generation 4Runners were designed with a wider track, but it is unclear if this was directly in response to increased pressure from safety groups, or if it was simply a product engineering decision.
In fall 2007 IIHS tests showed the 4Runner as one of the best crash test rating recipient, along with rival Nissan Pathfinder.

 

Look, give the kid a break. The bell just rang, recess ended and he has to get back to class or face detention. He really did not have a chance to work all of the numbers correctly. Oh, he could have saved even more money by not having any insurance instead of the minimum he carried. Wait, if I cancelled my full coverage I could save a ton of money too...

 

they also lacked air bags... or maybe you had to get the v6 to get the air bags

and the 95 was just a carry over from 94, heh

1995 4runner crash test video

 

We all know the OP is a joke. It's their first post.