Global cooling? What steps will Government take?

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  1. EasyRider

    EasyRider New Member

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    I dont care about the science of Global Warming or Global Cooling.

    My intent in this string was to point out the infallibility of the Scientific community. And that I think a large majority of the Global warming crowd is hyping Global warming to advance a political and social agenda.

    My position on global warming is, if it is true, and I not convinced it is, is that I'm ok with global warming Hysteria; so long as it brings about a big change in Global pollution. Global Pollution and Global poisoning will kill us long before Global warming.

    But before ether will happen. We face tremendous third world famine as the result in water shortages to meet the need of huge population ingresses in the third world countries in the coming forty to fifty years.
     
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  2. icarus

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    You don't care about the science? That's pretty obvious!

    As for the global warming crowd to advance a political and social agenda?

    And what might that be???? (Beyond the obvious of saving the planet?!) Are global warming "crowds" set to make more money that the entrenched energy "crowd"?


    As for the "infallibility" of the science. I think you mean the fallibility of the science. While the scientific community may (and does) have a debate as to the degree (no pun) and extent of the potential warming, few if any respected, peer reviewed climate scientists deny that it is real, and that it is human caused. A logical person, concerned as you are about the poisoning of the planet, your only logical response should (IMHO) be, to err on the side of caution. If we begin to make the changes to reduce CO2, and the climate models are not completely accurate, the worst case is that we have reduced CO2. On the other hand if we do nothing, the worst we will do is potential destroy our ability to live on the planet. The idea of "waiting to see" if it is right or wrong is, like, "there's a little fire in the kitchen. Let see we can use the box of baking soda now, but that would "waste" the baking soda, so we will see if the fire goes out on itself to save the box of soda!" I would argue that while the analogy is not very good, it non the less is true. Any other course of action is crazy. I suppose you could say I'm with the baking soda lobby!

    Sometime you should listen to your own arguments to hear how silly they are.

    Icarus
     
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  3. tripp

    tripp Which it's a 'ybrid, ain't it?

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    More than likely, those CO2 reductions are also a proxy for pollution reduction, so there is a substantial benefit. There are also national security benefits as well.
     
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  4. hyo silver

    hyo silver Awaaaaay

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    If you cared about the science, you might understand how pollution is related to climate change. Who knows, you might even have something relevant to say.
     
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    EasyRider,
    If it is the hypocrits that really are what bug you, why do you attact the cause they are using?
    Why not attack the hypocrits and don't let them flavor your view? And why only GW hypocrits? Why not religious hypocrits as an example?
     
    #25 Zythryn, Jul 22, 2008
  6. richard schumacher

    richard schumacher shortbus driver

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    Most people want to make some money, but the notion that people go into climatology to get rich is laughable. Only a person who values or understands nothing but money could think it was true.
     
    #26 richard schumacher, Jul 22, 2008
  7. Dave_PH

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    5,869 posts? Seriously? Wow.

     
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  8. EasyRider

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  9. hyo silver

    hyo silver Awaaaaay

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    More to the point, have YOU read it?
     
    #29 hyo silver, Jul 22, 2008
  10. richard schumacher

    richard schumacher shortbus driver

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    Since the doesn't care about the science it doesn't matter whether he has or not. I think we're done here.
     
    #30 richard schumacher, Jul 22, 2008
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    I guess the science of the Global Warming myth is more important than the death rate of the real fatal global problem of global pollution.

    Guys, the focus should be on Global pollution not Global Warming. If we take care of global pollution, we will also take care of the pollution that global warmest fear is the cause of global warming at the same time.

    Global pollution will need a even greater investment than simply curtailing green house gasses. Elimination of Green house gasses are only the start of whats needed to stop the millions of people killed by global pollution.

    I assume you all care about the death toll from global pollution as much as you guys obsess about global warming, don't you?

    Pollution May Cause 40 Percent of Global Deaths | LiveScience
     
    #31 EasyRider, Jul 22, 2008
  12. icarus

    icarus Senior Member

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    Didn't we all have a long conversation about Livescience before on these threads? Looking into who owed and ran it?

    Icarus
     
    #32 icarus, Jul 22, 2008
  13. Godiva

    Godiva AmeriKan Citizen

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    Keep in mind the Bush administration has devalued the average human by $1 million dollars. So we're worth a lot less than we were before. So it might be cheaper to let us die than put filters on coal fired plants.
     
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  14. Dave_PH

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    I'm sure whatever climate problems exist, warming or cooling, they were caused by employed white males.
     
    #34 Dave_PH, Jul 23, 2008
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    hyo silver Awaaaaay

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    Well, the alpha apes have been busy...
     
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