BT Tech Skid Plate availbe for pre-order

wy not a plastic plate
its lighter and so less fuel needed

i am curios on what the less airflow wil do to make a better mpg

 

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SO that's ONE case.

That's just speculation then. Your claim of "quite a few" Prius owners shelling out thousands of dollars for undercarriage damage isn't supported.

That's fine if you want to talk marketing speak, just make it clear.

Then maybe you can do so without the outlandish claims.

Sorry, do you want me to sell snake oil so that I'll have the same "contribution" as you have?

 

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For what, for questioning BT T's claims?

The question is if it is NEEDED, or is it WANTED. If the former, then prove it. If the latter, then go for your life.

 

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Okay then: prove that you need the skid plate by showing the "quite a few" Prius owners who spent thousands of dollars on engine repair.

Then prove that the skid plate will improve aerodynamics and will improve high speed handling.

If you can't prove the above, then buy the plate because you want to, not because it's needed, and refrain from parroting the market hype.

 

It's not about wits, it's about scientific veracity and market hype.

 

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Really? Can't see it, care to show where?

It's a good idea to wrap a 10-inch thick steel around the car to protect the occupants, but is it necessary?

 

BiGG time troll

 

For a $300.00 merchandise price, I would expect a thick aluminum sheet, type of armor plate,the stamped ribs are included to increment rigidity for a large almost flat surface and to break spurious undercarriage vibrations.
I would like to order one but have some questions,
What type of fasteners are included on this Kit?, and fastening points? are there any reinforcements made to the fastening point in the car? How high the car needs to be in order to remove original parts and install this skid plate? How BIG is it? What type of instructions will be made available to the purchasers. Will it be printed material, PDF electronic downloads or video instructions on demand?
If it falls or "break loose" from installation instructions while driving and IT makes some kind of damage to my vehicle, is BT Tech responsible of the consequences?
Is it there are return policy for this product?
What will we really get for $300.00, I'm sort of blind up to know.

 

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You have 18 posts and a whole pile of them have been having a go at the BT Tech under tray. A lot of people see that as troll like behaviour. Several people on this forum have expressed a desire to better protect under their Prius from damage from parking nose to curb and steep driveways and snow/ice or rocks. BT Tech have responded to the call for under car protection by developing this plate. If you don't like it Bebopp please feel free to not buy it. I'm not going to buy it so I'm not biased, I'm just sick of the negativity. Time to back off now unless you can prove the BT Tech bash plate will not be of benefit to anyone, he who alleges must prove. We have had the BT Tech stiffening plate debate, the only evidence it works is a heap of happy customers. We don't need a debate on this, it is what it is, it doesn't promise any magic it just says it will provide SOME protection to the engine and trans, don't buy that it is needed? good, spend your money elsewhere.

Does it look like it will smooth airflow under the car, well it does to me but without testing I won't know. If you want to prove it doesn't then go ahead otherwise back off.

It isn't plastic because it is supposed to provide some protection it isn't just for looks.

Market hype from someone selling something? Who ever heard of that? We are all big boys and girls, we can play in the sandpit without you playing mother. To paraphrase what I said, don't want sand in your eyes it may be best if you run inside.

 

You can put him on "ignore". I did after his second post.

 

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Need is a matter of personal perception (unless you are applying for public assistance). Last I checked, as long as one is over 18 (free of parental prerogative) and has the funds, they can purchase a BT Tech skid plate without having to provide proof of merit.

 

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I saw the sales puffery, too, but didn't think to comment as I have been bruised for daring to question saint-bt before. And it is puffery. If he just wants to fulfill market demand, I would think a comfortable seat would be a better bet. Plenty of gripes about that.

But what prodded me to respond was your back-asswards logic. BT tech is the alleger. If he doesn't want to back it up, proprietary marketing research and all that, fine. Your chain of reasoning is familiar to anyone who has been in a religious argument:
believer: god is good.
non-believer: I see no evidence that god exists.
believer: well, you can't prove he doesn't exist, you alleger.

Moving on . . . I think a plastic bash plate might be a better design. Consider that if the plastic cost $100 you could afford to take 3 hits for the cost of the aluminum. Really bad luck or inevitable, depending on whose marketing data you believe. It would weigh less, saving gas and be stiffened without machining, reducing vibration. And be recycled. Hmmmm, green.

When all you have is an NC machine, everything is an aluminum billet.

 

Oh, nuts, it would have been nice to swing by and see the thing
for myself while I was down there. Do you think you could place
the installation instructions online somewhere [if not there
already] so shoppers can get a better idea of how it installs?
I'm definitely interested [and hopefully can take a little
credit for originally helping float the idea way back when]. Oh,
and how much does the whole assembly weigh?? How much of the
car's front-end weight could it support without buckling if you
high-centered on something big?
.
Perhaps the design will evolve to offer different levels of
protection [aluminum, plastic, unobtanium for those serious
hybrid rock-crawler Priuses]. And bebopp/ronh, you can just
bugger off; if you decline to evaluate and buy something, don't
saddle the rest of us with your rationalizations.
.
_H*

 

How thick is the aluminum used?

Any pics of the plates/hardware used to cover the access holes?

 

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Well I'm not sure I see a lot of CNC work on this plate, what I see is some work on a brake press and maybe an automated cutter. If you want a plastic one Ron, I'm sure you can make it, please let us know how it stands up to scientific analysis. I don't think Brian is passing this plate off as anything but a plate which will provide more impact resistance to the underside of the front of a Prius, we are all aware it's new and untested so I don't know where you are coming from and frankly I don't care.

Bebopp was aleging the plate did not do as was claimed, well by releasing the plate to the public Brian is allowing people to assess the thing, if Bebopp wants to allege his claims are a load of bull let him prove it. If he wants to take BT Tech to court for making false claims he best be able to prove the plate doesn't work, that is how the system works.
It's like I said about the BT stiffening plate, if you don't think it works you can on sell it and your cost is about the price of a steak in a restaurant. You buy a steak at a restaurant from a friends recommendation wouldn't you?
By the way, when did they stop recycling aluminium?

 

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Hey, BT tech got carried away, "quite a few Prius owners have had to pay out thousands of dollars due to debris hitting and damaging vital engine components," and bebopp called him on it. Reminded me of exterminators telling of termite horror stories. I've seen worse in the way of character assassination here. And just ratchet up the hyperbole another notch: did anyone claim Nader shouldn't complain about GM because he hadn't built any Corvairs? Perhaps because the internet hadn't been invented yet.

 

In case you did not realize it, Bebopp is one and the same poster as JimboJones.

 

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Perhaps you could offer a plastic bash plate alternative? Nothing like a little bit of competition to spur innovation. Then you could enjoy the opportunities of responding to those who feel that a plastic bash plate doesn't offer sufficient protection from impacts. Who knows, your thread might get into the 2,000+ post count territory if you are sufficiently capable at defending the technological superiority of your plastic bash plate.

So, by that logic (since you seem to be advocating for plastic), does that mean you have a plastic machine? Perhaps Brian evaluated all options and settled on aluminum as the best approach? But that begs the issue; Brian selected aluminum, as the potential consumer, you can choose to buy Brian's skid plate or not.

 

Out of curiosity, how are you able to determine which identity is who? It would seem to be a great tool to be able to out trolls from their multiple masquerades.