Navigation system aftermarket? (Prius in Hawaii)

Hi frossie, welcome to PriusChat! The problem you've found is internal Toyota sales logic. Hawaiian Toyota sales organization is not like one of the other US regional sales organizations. I think they buy their cars directly from Toyota in Japan. You probably can't get a Prius with built-in nav there in Hawaii. On the other hand, it's hard to get too lost on most of the islands. You could buy a Prius in California and ship it back to Hawaii if you really want integrated nav, but even the North America nav DVD is at least two years out of date and costs over $300 to replace.

Buy a Prius there. If/when you move to the mainland, sell your Prius there and buy a new one here. They hold value well and you'll get a new car with new bells and whistles... and nav.

And the troll has been reported so no one needs to report it again.

 

The distributor Servco Toyota has a separate agreement with Toyota and is the only dealer here. The couple of independent dealers on the outer islands still buy their cars from Servco. They do not bring in any vehicles with navigation. This includes all the Lexus which they also distribute. Their rationale was it is not really needed here and hardly anyone asks for it and it's an expensive option. I called the BMW dealer and he told me they will bring in a few BMWs with navigation but usually only special orders. He said if they have a vehicle with nav and the person doesn't want nav they end up making no money on the option in order to sell the car, which kinda makes sense here. Servco prices on the Prius are decent but not the lowest. They do not negotiate so it is what it is. They have a online sales division and I once ran into a salesman for online sales at the parts dept and he said they have the cheapest prices so check online. Also shipping is about $1000 to or from mainland west coast and if you ship a new car to Hawaii you're suppose to pay sales tax now. A couple of years ago it was hit or miss whether you got charged the tax, now I'm pretty sure you will be charged. Also if you are thinking of getting the extended Toyota warranty that's discounted on this site you might have to cover expenses/repairs yourself then get reimbursed through the warranty you purchase. Servco has a warranty which is expensive ($1700) but you do get the full amount ($1700) back at the end if you do not use any of it. You can choose to use it or not. It is prorated from the date of purchase (not after vehicle warranty expires) if you want to cancel if you sell vehicle. I don't think it's transferable but I'm not positive.

 

Oh boy, at that price, it's less expensive to just buy a car on the mainland and have it shipped. Shipping was posted at about $1000. That way, you get to pay the exorbitant cost for the Toyota Nav. system.

 

I recommend picking up a Garmin Nuvi 350 or higher.... way cheaper and has better features. Plus it's portable, so you can take it on a few on-foot adventures in the lovely land of Hawaii

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(frossie @ Aug 17 2007, 09:29 AM) [snapback]497978[/snapback]</div>

I just called the Toyota dealer by the Honolulu airport, 564-1100 and spoke to a salesman named Miles. He said they are selling the Prius for MSRP or a little less. Absolutely can not order one with navigation. They are getting backlogged again so there might be a wait now. Also the 08 will be in soon. Shipping is around $100 for cars to outer islands I think. Or wait for the Superferry to get going, fly over on one of Go's $1 fares, pick it up and drive on and off to your door.

 

I didn't get the NAV option when I bout my Prius and now I want it. I put in an order for a Kenwood DNX7100 DVD/NAV/CD/MP3/USB player. Pretty nice unit overall and the NAV works in all of the US and Canada, including Puerto Rico.

 

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I've posted on Priuschat any number of times re: how dissatisfied I am with the Nav system; if I could do it over again, I'd order it without and just upgrade my dash-mounted GPS. I've posted the why on epinions.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(frossie @ Aug 18 2007, 07:46 PM) [snapback]498462[/snapback]</div>

I sent a letter to Denso America (cc'd to Toyota) with inline photos, comparing the Nav system to my old Garmin 2620. Maybe I'll convert it to HTML and post it. I think the graphics make the issues clearer.

 

There are also third-party GPS systems (like one by Pioneer) that are built in, so there is some integration. It replaces your radio and has a separate screen which comes out when needed.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(frossie @ Aug 18 2007, 01:25 PM) [snapback]498408[/snapback]</div>

From what I have seen you would have to have a qualified stereo shop custom fabricate an install kit. Best Kits doesn't list one and unless I looked at an old catelog, Metra didn't have one either. It's not a difficult job though and would look very clean if done correctly. Another option is to place a fold-out DVD/NAV/CD player in the small DIN sized location under the stock radio. I have not entertained that idea much but if it was spaced correctly it might work.

I just like the functionality and plethora of useful gadgets on the Kenwood unit.

This is what the unit looks like:


and here are the specs. Crutchfield has em for $1,399

Kenwood's DNX7100 navigation receiver packs the double-sized dash opening in your vehicle with movies and music, along with turn-by-turn directions from its onboard navigation system. The DivX-compatible DVD player and 6.95" touchscreen bring your movies to life when you're parked, and a dynamic user interface makes scrolling through menus simple and intuitive when you're on the go.

The internal-memory navigation works faster than systems based on DVDs, so you'll get prompt directions and speedy rerouting when you're forced off course.

Details:


General features:

» in-dash DVD/CD player with internal amplifier (22 watts RMS/50 peak x 4 channels)
» built-in 2GB memory for navigation
» fits double-DIN (4" tall) dash openings
» wireless remote

Audio/visual features:

» plays MP3/WMA/AACs on CD or DVD
» plays DivX format DVDs
» 6.95" touchscreen with customizable backgrounds

Expandability:

» compatible with Kenwood iPod adapter; Bluetooth adapter; HD Radio tuner; satellite radio; CD changer
» inputs: USB port; rear camera input; A/V input
» outputs: front, rear, and sub 2-volt preamp outputs; A/V output

 

For a portable unit you might check this unit out. I've played with it in person and it seems very useful. Does NAV, MP3 and Video and is completely portable. So you can watch movies/videos on the plane or camping. It does not work for major hiking treks though as it is mainly designed for road-way NAV.



Technical Details
Powerful, portable device combines highly-accurate GPS navigation with robust digital audio and video playback
Turn-by-turn maps and spoken driving directions in English, French, or Spanish; complete, preloaded maps of the U.S. and Canada
4-inch widescreen touchscreen display can play video in MPEG-1/4 and WMV9 formats
Fully-featured MP3 player allows you to search by artist, album, genre, song, or playlist
Features an intuitive and easy-to-operate, color-coded menu scheme

Here it is on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00...ractiveda656-20

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tideland Prius @ Aug 19 2007, 01:40 PM) [snapback]498774[/snapback]</div>

Ahh but the stock radio is double DIN from the looks of it. I've had it out before but never measured it. I know my installer can make it fit in my car so I ordered the unit anyway. lol

You can buy similar units that are single DIN and the screen folds out and may fit in the location below the stock radio but the screen would have to be able to extend quite far. I have not measured the Kenwood unit that folds out yet but I may end up doing it soon. It would be very nice for a stealth install because you could close the smoke colored door over the radio and hide it completely. The fold-out units usually incorporate a "brain" unit that would have to be installed under the seat whereas the double DIN units are usually 1-piece.