Very Disappointed with NAV

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bryan11 @ Jun 12 2007, 02:13 PM) [snapback]460282[/snapback]</div>

Actually when in OUR Prius my Wife is the driver 99.9% of the time and I am the "navigator" and I am the one in charge of the NAV. Same thing with the Acura MDX we had, I used to do the NAVI selections and changes while she drove. I understand that it is quite a distraction and an "accident waiting to happen" if the driver was trying to "fiddle around" and enter locations into any NAV while driving. There are a couple of pins that can be shorted together (or put to ground?) in the actual connector in the Toyota NAV wiring harness to "disable" the ability not to be programmed while vehicle is in motion, as well as the ability to pass right by the "I agree" screen upon initial startup. There is a Company on East coast of Florida, about three hours away from me, which manufacturers these "adapters" as well as a few other nifty gagets and various MFD "overrides" !!

I am not sure of the validity of the following since it applies to '06 and earlier but I found this on the internet:
To override Lexus and Toyota touch screens NAV in motion ('06 and earlier)-go to the screen that has the volume button. Push the upper left, then lower left each 2x-this will get you to a service screen. Then select the "override" button (hold for several seconds). Then select the back button. Now your passenger will be able to enter destinations or searches .

I also found this:
http://www.priuscar.com/nav_speed_disconnect.htm

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Prius Toric @ Jun 13 2007, 09:13 AM) [snapback]460777[/snapback]</div>

I actually went to the TomTom site yesterday and was impressed. Never saw one but they are a lot cheaper than Garmin. Shortly after that I spoke with my Wife, the primary Prius driver, and she thinks (KNOWS) the Toyota NAV is a piece of junk compared to what we are used to (Acura) and she has come to the realization the Toyota NAV just "is what it is"..... as a MAP it is useless. As a "destination finder" it is just as lame. The one time we used it to "go home" it wanted us to make a U-Turn in the middle of Interstate I-4, a six lane highway with median and metal anti-crossing barriers.
If we had it to do over again, would certainly would NOT have bought a Toyota NAV, no sir !!
:angry:

I consider this now a "dead thread" and an exhausted topic. The Toyota NAV is just crap !! We live in a community of hundreds of streets that EACH one was "listed" (names) with our previous NAVI. Out of a hundred+ streets only the main street in this development is listed on the Toyota NAV, no matter what zoom level you are at. It's programming is crap............ complete waste of money, should have gotten package 3 instead of 5 and bought a TomTom "add-on" !! Too late now $$ :angry:

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Swanny1172 @ Jun 13 2007, 09:45 AM) [snapback]460793[/snapback]</div>

I am not kidding, the Acura OEM NAVI was great !! But that is gone and what we have now can't even compare to what we once had. We just expected that the Toyota NAV would be at least "close" to the performance of the Acura (Honda) NAVI. They are like night-and-day !! The Acura NAVI would show ALL the side streets like I was looking at a moving Google Map. Like I mentioned, the Toyota doesn't even show the streets in this community....... it is so lame, JUNK !! Unfortunately the Toyota NAV was not one of the items we looked that carefully at during the test drive. I am so tempted to buy a TomTom and TRY IT !! The one thing that always frightend me with an "external" NAV is the chance of theft when vehicle is parked in a public place like a parking garage or during a 3 hour concert or play, etc.

And you are 100% correct about the update DVD's !! I heard Toyota wants $250 !! Even the Acura was around $100 and I thought THAT was a lot of money.......... but at least you could load it into the Acura NAVI like a regular DVD !!

So what do you suggest as a good, affordable, easy to manipulate and "see" (in sun) aftermarket NAV ??

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Swanny1172 @ Jun 13 2007, 10:24 AM) [snapback]460820[/snapback]</div>

That sounds logical to me.... I wish this 5%'er would have done my homework on the Toyota NAV !!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Swanny1172 @ Jun 13 2007, 10:24 AM) [snapback]460820[/snapback]</div>

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll definitely have to look at this one !!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Swanny1172 @ Jun 13 2007, 10:24 AM) [snapback]460820[/snapback]</div>

I primariliy want a GPS/NAV for the Honda CR-V (MY vehicle) when I am doing "field work" (Computer service), but it doesn't mean that I can't bring it into our new Prius when we are going on a trip or just Sunday cruisin' !!

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Charles Suitt @ Jun 14 2007, 12:36 PM) [snapback]461642[/snapback]</div>

OR, hmmmmmmm, Toyota NAV Computer DVD "programmers" can borrow (outsource?) a few of the Honda programmers to re-write their lame NAV map program..... turn it in to something sensible !!
DON'T defend Toyota NAV if you have never used another brand that really works well !!
If the Toyota NAV is the ONLY one you ever used then it is totally natural to think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread !! Have YOU ever used (for any length of time) another brand NAV ??
And what a stupid thing to even suggest trading-in our brand new Prius because of a poorly programmed NAV !!
There is nothing that a good programmer working at Toyota can't "fix" to make street names more visible at INTERSECTIONS, not way, way off to the side of the MFD, out of plain sight !!
And as we ALL know, Prius has no drivers seat adjustment, my Wife and I both KNEW this since the first 30 seconds of our initial Prius test drive. This is a shortcoming and/or omission by Toyota.... we bought it anyway !!
It's not "frustration", just a high degree of disappointment !!

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ZA_Andy @ Jun 14 2007, 01:17 PM) [snapback]461687[/snapback]</div>

NONE of the Prius's we ever took for a test drive had the NAV, none. Most were package 2 at best !! As a matter of fact we only drove one Touring and that was for 15 minutes. The two others we test drove were all "standard" (non-touring) !!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ZA_Andy @ Jun 14 2007, 01:17 PM) [snapback]461687[/snapback]</div>

If it doesn't do what we want it to do it's like kicking a dead horse, we know that !!
I am sincerely hoping that maybe the NEXT Toyota NAV DVD to be released will have a vastly "improved" program that would overcome these street name omissions. I mentioned this before, here in Florida we live in a community of over 100 streets. The "old" NAVI displayed each and every street name and even at various zoom levels. The new Toyota NAV shows 100 "lines" with no names except ONE MAIN street, that's all, and no matter what zoom level or split screen or whatever, it just shows lines. For over four years we saw street names (with the other NAVI) and it is just very difficult to try to understand WHY Toyota "programmed" the DVD to be so "dumb" ??
By the way, tried a friend's Garmin nuvi 660 yesterday, small screen (4.3"), but showed EVERY street in this community, and we were 20+ miles away at the time we were looking !! Too bad it didn't have a larger screen (Garmin 660) as these tired, old eyes needed the glasses to "see"

 

<div align="center">I declare this thread OFFICIALLY DEAD as of this moment !!</div>

As it was originally titled I am very disappointed with the Toyoya NAV as we all know far to well by now.

I first started this thread looking for "help" (actually in hope) that perhaps I was doing something wrong and not pushing the right buttons to have it function as I expected it to, based solely on a NAVI I owned in a previous vehicle, which was the only NAV I ever used before this Toyota NAV.

After taking suggestions and comments from many replies I soon discovered the vast limitations of the design and function of this "new" Toyota NAV and was disappointed and frustrated even more, occasionally "bashing" the Toyota NAV in a few thread replies. (which some referred to as "bitching")

I then realized, sadly enough, that "it is what it is" (or rather "isn't" !!) and as some have suggested, just live with it "as-is" or just don't use it at all !! Logical suggestions and the only real solution !!

So my Wife and I, both very disappointed, but "accepting" of the vast differences and limitations of this Toyota NAV have had discussions of.... if we had it to do over, would we have bought package 3 or 4 instead of 5, etc., etc. but that does NOT change what we have done (bought package 5) and although the Toyota NAV sucks, (in our opinion) the many other features and positive aspects of the Prius far outweigh the few "bad" features, such as non-height-adjust driver's seat, poorly programmed NAV, etc.

<div align="center">THIS THREAD IS NOW CLOSED !!</div>