A man who makes Al Gore seem somewhat normal

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(zapranoth @ Apr 24 2007, 01:18 AM) [snapback]428872[/snapback]</div>

HK USP actually...

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DocVijay @ Apr 19 2007, 11:01 AM) [snapback]426037[/snapback]</div>

Well, I thank god that people like you aren't in total control of the country, here's what the virginia governor did to close the loophole that allowed this lunatic to get a gun.

and to all those arguning that mental patients should have guns because it's their god given 2nd amendment right, you can go talk to the governor now, because he and fortunately many like him don't believe your absurd arguments. Nice try though!


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RICHMOND, Virginia (AP) -- Virginia Gov. Timothy M. Kaine said Monday he has closed the loophole that allowed a mentally disturbed Virginia Tech student to acquire the guns he used to kill 32 students and faculty members.

Kaine issued an executive order requiring that a database of people who are prohibited from buying guns include anyone found to be dangerous and ordered to undergo involuntary mental health treatment.

Seung-Hui Cho had been ordered by a court to undergo psychiatric counseling after a judge ruled that he was a danger to himself.

But because Cho was treated as an outpatient and never committed to a mental health hospital, the court finding never made it into the database that gun dealers must check before selling a firearm. The law prohibits selling firearms to people judged to have mental disabilities.

The database "should include any determination that someone is mentally ill and so dangerous to himself or others as to warrant involuntary treatment," Kaine said in a statement.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daronspicher @ Apr 18 2007, 09:32 AM) [snapback]425284[/snapback]</div>

Yes, it's *so* much better having a failed insurance salesman/oilman/baseball manager as President. Thanks for sharing.

 

The sad reality of the situation is that it requires lots of money and power to enter politics (which, paradoxically, is one of the main methods of helping the poor).

This whole argument about whose house is bigger and like that is a non-issue.

All of these guys (and women too) are the power elite, and we all know it.

They're all integrally a part of our current system...and they all are willing to 'help others' only so much as to not diminish:
--the worth of their assets/the brightness of their childrens future
--the respect of their business partners and colleagues and the folks who fund their campaigns and businesses.
--the scope of their personal power, even if it means living in a manner contradictory to their purported beliefs.

I think anyone who assumes otherwise (even about our current favorite, Mr. Obama) is deluding themselves.

And if you think that our current president is any different, remember that John Q. Public usually isn't inducted to an Ivy League school as a legacy.