Errr... Auxiliary battery????

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by babsrocks, Feb 27, 2007.

  1. babsrocks

    babsrocks Junior Member

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    I have been stuck with a dead aux battery several times over the last few weeks. I've been able to jump it, but I need a new battery. Trouble is... where on earth can I get one?

    I've called all the dealerships in my area (5) and no one has one. One of the dealers did have a battery that I bought for $140, but it was for the one with smart key and nav, not for my base model. I rely on my car to do my job and can't be stuck like this.
    I also tried NAPA, Autozone, Advance Auto, Interstate Battery with no luck.
    Please if anyone knows how I can get a battery, please let me know. I was told that I could use a battery for a Mazda Miata. Anyone have experience with that?
    I have not had any problems with my Prius, and have been very happy with it, but this is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. I'd like to run down to Autozone and get one... but no...
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(babsrocks @ Feb 27 2007, 11:40 PM) [snapback]397654[/snapback]</div>
    This seems very strange. My dealer has been able to get almost any part in one or two days (a week at the most). I know this because of accident damage from hitting a deer, a dead NAV system, other friends with accidents. Also I have never heard of anyone saying that there is any difference between a NAV equipped Prius aux battery and a base model. After all, the Aux battery just boots the car normally, so why would it be different? Would it be larger with Smart Key from the drain from that system? Even if it is a larger battery, it seems very odd that the battery compartment would be a different size with different cables. I bet they are getting a 2001-03 battery mixed up with the 2004-07 model.

    Perhaps you could get the battery at a real dealer like Metropolitan and have it overnighted to you. The cost would probably be about the same since Metropolitan usualy discounts parts.

    http://www.metrotpn.com/

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tom_06 @ Feb 28 2007, 03:56 AM) [snapback]397721[/snapback]</div>
    And Jesse is a nice guy. He's willing to talk to you. At least has with me. He could probably tell you for sure if the aux battery you already have should work. If not, then I'd order it from him. If you're in a hurry, then spend the extra money for overnight delivery.

    You can find the email address, phone number, etc. in this thread.

    http://priuschat.com/2006-Navigation-DVD-N...ble-t28540.html

    Dave M.

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    Every dealer should either have the battery in stock or be able to get it for you within a day.. All Prii, use the same battery, so it doesn't matter what options or package or year you have, it's the same battery (the original battery supplied in the early 2001/2002 models was a bit smaller in capacity, but they had an SSC to upgrade to a larger capacity battery and have kept this battery in all subsequent vehicles)..

    If you want larger capacity and lower cost than the Toyota or the Miata battery and don't mind making some modifications to the battery terminals and the hold-down, it's possible to replace the battery with a Honda Civic battery, which has the bigger North American terminals (two versions available, choose the one with the correct terminal orientation), but is the same width, but about an inch longer and very slightly taller which prevents a "drop-in" replacement (hence the requirement for the hold-down and terminal modifications), but is much more commonly available and much cheaper...
     
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    2004 and later Prius had the terminal polarity reversed, with respect to the 2001-2003 Prius. Thus the aftermarket replacements that have been most commonly used in classic Prius are not immediately drop-in compatible.
     
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    "The ’04 Prius uses a shielded, maintenance-free DC 12 V battery as the auxiliary battery. Depending on a
    destination or equipment items, either of the battery types, S34B20R or S46B24R, will be equipped."

    from: http://techno-fandom.org/~hobbit/cars/TIS/ncf/thsiicon.pdf

    The battery I bought from the dealership was a S46B24R, the battery in my car is a S34B20R. The new one is 2" longer, I think it'd fit into the compartment, but my boyfriend who's a mechanic said it won't work..
    I called around to 5 dealerships all telling me it (S34B20R) was on backorder , could be in within a week, or a month or 3 month.. they don't know.
    I don't want to do any modifications, I just want my car to start. I've been stranded 4 times this week in freezing temps, I can't deal with this....
    Will the larger battery work? I can get a Miata battery today, can it just be dropped in or do I need and mods?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(babsrocks @ Feb 28 2007, 12:15 PM) [snapback]397875[/snapback]</div>
    OK, I just asked why the new one won't work and he said it's because we'd need to also replace the bracket/holder.. He also said we'd have the same problem with the Miata battery.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(babsrocks @ Feb 28 2007, 12:52 PM) [snapback]397896[/snapback]</div>
    Well, after doing a search and finding a document talking about the changes between the 2003 and 2004 Prius, it turns out Babsrocks is correct. There ARE two different batteries in a 2004 Prius depending on equipment! From the post (posted by Hobbit!)

    "7. Auxiliary Battery
    The ’04 Prius uses a shielded, maintenance-free DC 12 V battery as the auxiliary battery. Depending on a
    destination or equipment items, either of the battery types, S34B20R or S46B24R, will be equipped."


    So Babsrocks really does need to find the S34B20R battery to fit without any changes OR perhaps the simplest route is to get the holder as well if it is not too expensive and is readily available. I'd still suggest calling Jesse at Metro as suggested by Dave M. and follow his recommendations. He may have the correct battery or can get it fastest or knows what parts to use to get the S34B24R battery to work.

    - Tom
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tom_06 @ Feb 28 2007, 01:16 PM) [snapback]397911[/snapback]</div>
    Thank you... :)
    Well I've been in contact with 2 dealers so far and Jesse. Haven't heard back from Jesse yet. The dealers can't figure out the part # etc and are going to call me back. Geeze this is a very comlicated procedure... lol
     
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    OK, so I have ordered a new battery tray and bracket (along with all the screws) from my Toyota dealer. Should be in tomorrow. Hopefully that'll be everything I need and I can get the new battery in and be on my way... pheww :unsure: (fingers crossed that I got everything I need)