Rec. for S. Cal Dlr for warranty tank/bladder replacement

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by scoot, Feb 23, 2007.

  1. scoot

    scoot Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2006
    125
    1
    0
    I'm going to pursue having my tank/bladdar replaced due to a posting that I placed in the Tech forum concluding that I have 10 gallon capacity in 70 degree weather. Having said that, I live in Pasadena but bought the car from Longo (el Monte?). Longo has a huge service department and huge volume. Pasadena is dinky in every respect.

    Does anyone have an opinion regarding which dealer service department might or might not be more able, competant, and cooperative in replacing the tank and/or bladdar?

    Have any of you had this done? (and if so, did it help?)

    thanks
    Scott
     
  2. seasalsa

    seasalsa Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2004
    1,278
    20
    0
    Location:
    Kent, WA
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    II
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(scoot @ Feb 23 2007, 10:59 AM) [snapback]395326[/snapback]</div>
    Evidently you did not believe the responses you got ton the other post. It is highly unlikely that you can find any service department that will replace your fuel tank just because you don't like the bladder and ran out of gas because you did not believe the fuel guage. If it is replaced it will be just like the one you have now and you will still run out of gas if you don't believe the guage.
     
  3. efusco

    efusco Moderator Emeritus
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2003
    19,891
    1,194
    9
    Location:
    Nixa, MO
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    How many other cars have you had that ran 460 miles before running out of gas?

    You'll go even further in the summer. Changing the tank will be a monumental, expensive, and probably very imperfect task...I'd say that in all likelyhood you'll have much more difficulty with the fuel guage and be more likely to run out of gas and have more complex and dangerous issues IF you can even find a way to have this accomplished.

    Believe the guage when it says you're low, fill up, and be happy that you're going around 500 miles on a tank of gas. As i said in the other thread, I've never gotten more than 9.6 gallons in my tank in a fill up, but I've had about 10 tanks over 600 miles. You just can't beat that.
     
  4. subarutoo

    subarutoo New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2006
    1,213
    23
    0
    Location:
    Chatsworth, CA
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Didn't you get enough abuse on the other forum? Get over it. Consider the bladder as a feature, and not another windmill to be attacked.
     
  5. Tempus

    Tempus Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2004
    1,690
    6
    0
    Location:
    Washington DC
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    To Recap:

    Your car is not broken.

    The bladder in your car is normal.

    This is not a warranty issue and there is nothing that can, will, or should be done.

    That's the way the system works.
     
  6. jgills240

    jgills240 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2006
    190
    2
    0
    Location:
    Palmdale, CA
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    I say go for it if it's that big of an issue for you; who are we to tell you what to do with your car. In the least, we'll find out exactly what Toyota USA's thoughts are on the subject and maybe if there's a fix in the works for the next generation of prius. and maybe how much it'll cost to get it replaced. Good luck and just let us know how it goes :D
     
  7. Devil's Advocate

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2005
    922
    13
    1
    Location:
    Las Vegas, Nevada
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    Good luck, I actually agree with you that the tank and bladder system is defective in its design and execution. Probably why its only used in the U.S. (to my understanding, could be wrong here)

    I will say that in some respects the bladder performs EXCATLY as designed, it prevents gasoline from sloshing, thereby reducing the vaporization and escape of gasoline into the atmosphere.

    However, just because something performs its designed for purpose well, does not mean that it can't have unanticipated side-effects that render the product either dangerous or significantly less useful for its designed purpose.

    The bladder creates an incredible differential between theoretical tank capacity and actual tank capacity. This is similar to the complaints that have caused the EPA to change its MPG testing protocols. However, as far as tank capacity goes, this can be a safety issue (admittedly rare in the U.S.) because it is impossible to determine how much fuel is in your car at any one time.

    My average re-fuel after 25 blinking miles is 8.9 gallons, my highest fill is over 12! this discrepency is unacceptable in such an advanced auto and should not be tolerated.
     
  8. SSimon

    SSimon Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2006
    1,426
    21
    0
    Location:
    N/W of Chicago
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jgills240 @ Feb 26 2007, 06:46 PM) [snapback]396892[/snapback]</div>
    Hey, the smiley face kinda looks like you! Hopefully you're always that happy.

    I didn't post in the other thread but can't understand why someone would want to spend a lot of money to squeeze another gallon of gas into the tank. You realize, don't you, that on an average of 12,000 miles/year, you'll only be stopping at a gas station 2 times less per year if your tank held 1 extra gallon of gas? You're going to risk damage to your vehicle and absorb the cost of a mod to defer two extra trips to the station over a 365 day period?!?!?!? You've spent more energy posting on this topic than the amount of time required to fill your tank twice. Maybe the efficiences of how your time is spent should be what really requires your attention.