A friend recently informed me of Honda issuing a settlement to extend warranties after a class action suit was filed because their odometers read a couple of percent off. This made me think about the 185/195 tire size discussion for the Prius and how it affects our MPH, MPG, and odometer readings. If the Honda auto owners can do it, why can't the Toyota auto owners do it too? Is any such animal in the works?
:huh: All you need for a lawsuit is a lawyer, not a claim. :blink: Probably a 'person' could file a lawsuit... might not even need a lawyer. Where did this "sue them" mentality originate?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Charles Suitt @ Feb 23 2007, 02:38 PM) [snapback]395368[/snapback]</div> For that matter, a lawyer could file a lawsuit, you might not even need a person (the implication being that lawyers are not human).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Charles Suitt @ Feb 23 2007, 01:38 PM) [snapback]395368[/snapback]</div> Perhaps you should actually do a little research before opening your mouth. There's no intention to sue for money, nor for any wrongful reason. The intent would simply be that if our odometers are 2% off that our warranties have their milage extended by 2%. Fair is fair. Honda car owners got Honda to do it. No reason why we shouldn't be able to. All I'm concerned with getting is what's written in the contract. It's certainly no cause for such a negative attitude.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Silver Phoenix @ Feb 23 2007, 03:11 PM) [snapback]395404[/snapback]</div> 2% is the normal variation between new tires and tires worn down to the wear bars. It is one of the reasons that new tires get poorer "mileage" than worn tires - the odometer that you are calculating from is varying by that 2% (more miles reported when the tires are worn). The Prius OEM tires are 24.5" in diameter and rotate 855 times per mile when new. The tread is about 1/4" deep from new to totally worn out. That is a 1/2" variation in diameter. Do the math. If you don't like pi as 3.1416... you can try taking that to court while your at it. Some clever lawyer might win a lawsuit but that doesn't make it right or correct. - Tom
:lol: :lol: QUOTE: "Perhaps you should actually do a little research..." Now, that's worth a chuckle. Reminds me of the currently running "Caveman" commercials. Thanks for the laugh. :lol: :lol:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Silver Phoenix @ Feb 23 2007, 10:11 AM) [snapback]395404[/snapback]</div> What do lawyers sue for if not for money? The lawyers don't care about the settlement they get their fees from a Deep Pocket. Honda probably won't agree with you, especially if they write that check for 9.5 mil. http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1163194119145
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Silver Phoenix @ Feb 23 2007, 01:12 PM) [snapback]395344[/snapback]</div> I read an article on this lawsuit quiet recently. The lawyer, if I recall correctly, was from TX. The article stated that he had done tests on all manufacturers, and Toyota actually tended to slightly under report the number of miles driven, so, the only real thing that bringing this to Toyota's attention would do, would be to shorten our warranties.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(koa @ Feb 23 2007, 06:14 PM) [snapback]395507[/snapback]</div> For God's sake...it is for money only!!!!! Lawlers care about NOTHING but that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Duane @ Feb 23 2007, 01:26 PM) [snapback]395514[/snapback]</div> You think the lawyers are giving a discount to Honda? Or maybe they would take a really really long warranty on their spouse's Odyssey in trade.
I have an Australian 06 Prius (made in Japan) and there is a setting that needs to be done if new tyres are fitted. I assume that as the tyres wear the speed and distance calculations change. From memory, there is also a setting for changing the calculations if the tyre size is changed.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Orf @ Feb 23 2007, 05:25 PM) [snapback]395574[/snapback]</div> That calibration is only for the navigation system, it has no effect on the speedometer or the odometer.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Stev0 @ Feb 23 2007, 11:47 AM) [snapback]395375[/snapback]</div> Sorta reminds me of what happened in California a few years ago with the Trevor Law Group.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(aaf709 @ Feb 23 2007, 07:28 PM) [snapback]395616[/snapback]</div> I doubt many of us California lawyers hope to follow in the Trevor Law Group's footsteps . . . right off the disbarment cliff.
