College Student Jailed For Two Days

Another case of the religious right imposing their value system on the rest of us. This medical person should not be in this job/position if they cannot allow those who see things differently to exercise their rights.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(huskers @ Jan 31 2007, 02:28 PM) [snapback]383418[/snapback]</div>

Agreed. This is patently WRONG.

But, her accusation of rape is only that -- an accusation. Right?

Also, it is possible that her att'y used the religious angle to -- what else -- polarize people? Maybe...because she's then released from jail due to public outcry...?

Looks like the plan worked to me.

Polarizing people is wrong, period. I think the attorney played the 'religion' card a bit hastily.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinto Girl @ Jan 31 2007, 06:58 PM) [snapback]383516[/snapback]</div>

Aye, methinks there is more to this story. If one jailer had "religous convictions", a quick request to a supervisor would likely result in another less inclined jailer.

This story smells.

 

A few more details from another source: http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2007/1/30/219595.html

>>The woman says while she was in jail a nurse would not allow her to take the required second dose of the morning after pill, but the jail nurse said she did nothing wrong. A statement released by her attorney, Jennifer D'Angelo, said,

"The morning after pill was placed into her personal property and not listed on any medical chart, which would have enabled the nurse to administer the medication. These reports . . . are simply false."

The victim and her family stand by their original statement.

"The supervisor said that the morning after pill was against her, the supervisor's, religion, and refused to dispense it," the victim's mother said. "Knowing she's a rape victim, it's against her religion, and my daughter was helpless being incarcerated in the jail."
....
The nurse, who her attorney said is not a supervisor, is on paid administrative leave and the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office is investigating the incident.<<

And as to her story being an "accusation," she initiated contact with the police. It's not like she got picked up or something and made up "I've been raped." She called the police because she had been raped. She was riding in the car trying to help them find her attacker when the officer ran her details and found the warrant. Just wouldn't make a whole lot of sense for her to call in a "fake rape" in this case. It'll be interesting to see what this story becomes after a few days and more facts surface.

 

Welcome to post-9/11 policing, where victims are automatically suspects, too.

Obviously not in the same category, but twice in the past year our home was vandalized (paint), and naturally we called the police on each occasion. The level of interrogation of me was jaw-dropping, including demanding my SSN for background checks. The first time was "Huh??!... whatever...", the second time was, well, "Wth??!"

This is apparently a product of "the new normal" homeland security mentality - each encounter with law enforcement regardless of "side" is an opportunity to run somebody through the system. Frankly, they won't be called next time. I'll just suck it up as "life's not fair, so deal with it."

 

Sounds like a get rich quick sceme, leaning towards a lawsuit.

Plus the media must have been board that day... This would be back page news otherwise.

what about this one?

The home of Jackson County sheriff John McDaniel became a crime scene as his wife Mellie, a deputy and two suspects were shot and killed on Tuesday Jan. 30, 2006 in Marianne, Fla.
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/st...869&k=15566

Whats the world comming to?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MikeQBF @ Jan 31 2007, 06:03 PM) [snapback]383546[/snapback]</div>

LOL your funny! :lol: :lol:

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(priusguy04 @ Jan 31 2007, 07:45 PM) [snapback]383563[/snapback]</div>

HUH? A) She had no way of knowing she would be arrested. 2) She had no way of anticipating a judge with send her to jail for 2 days with no bail.

>>As police assisted her, taking her to a nurse examiner's clinic, and processing her report, an officer found two outstanding warrants for the woman in Sarasota County.

Attorney Virlyn "Vic" Moore III of Venice said his client was seated in the front seat of the police cruiser, on her way to the scene of her attack when the officer learned of the warrant, cuffed her and placed her in the back seat.<< http://www.sptimes.com/2007/01/30/Tampabay...starts_tw.shtml

So they arrested her after a nurse examined her. I do not know, I somehow doubt she's "faking."

Sheesh.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MegansPrius @ Jan 31 2007, 07:10 PM) [snapback]383567[/snapback]</div>

WTH??? Who said she was FAKING????

Ok lets set the stage for the uninformed ie those who do not know about police and how it works....

Ok Im a woman, I've been raped and I call the police. The police arrive they collect the clothing including underware that I was wearing at the time of the alledged rape occoured for possible DNA evidence "semen".
I am then taken to etheir a hospital or a clinic (depending on the dept policy as for location)

the Doctor then swabs my vagina for semen and examines for signs of truama. I then write my sworn statement for the police. the officer runs my name through FCIC/ NCIC If I have a warrant for my arrest it will be listed in FCIC/NCIC (nation-wide computer sys), because I commited a crime I would then be arrested on the warrant(s). Not because I called in a rape accusation, But because I had two outstanding ARREST WARRANTS for me in another location.

I agree with 'Schmika' something smells.

The only place I can find any listing of a FAKE RAPE is here. :huh:

As do the posters in this thread, jumping on the anti-religious band wagon.. <_<
Or to automaticly blame the police for everything :angry: How do you blamers survive in this life???

Heres the rest of the story:

grand theft and burglary are FELONIES.

How would you feel if your the one waiting for the $4,585 in restitution?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(priusguy04 @ Jan 31 2007, 09:03 PM) [snapback]383585[/snapback]</div>

Sorry priusguy--was writing hastily and misinterpreted previous comments in the thread as some sort of consensus that she'd somehow planned/faked this. Said misinterpretation resulted in my prior rant. No one has actually said she faked this.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MegansPrius @ Jan 31 2007, 10:10 PM) [snapback]383653[/snapback]</div>

Its cool man I just wanted to catch that before some one else took the faking idea and ran with it , like they statred to do with the religion thingy..

Also, it is possible that her att'y used the religious angle to -- what else -- polarize people? Maybe...because she's then released from jail due to public outcry...?

Polarizing people is wrong, period. I think the attorney played the 'religion' card a bit hastily.

You know its a sad day when a person tries to use religion, to get out of jail and into a lawsuit..

We will have to wait and see what the rest of the story is, MP your the researcher let us know...

Ps. I find it kinda humorus that the way news article is worded, can really set someone off like, 'Huskers' into his religious rant... (Huskers just using you as an example) But no matter what the subject title is they're worded to to sell papers... Kinda like that game of you whisper a head line into a persons ear and they do the same until it gets back to you same premis for reading a news story :mellow:

Headline: "Russia where the men are men and the sheep are nervous". Hmm where could a person go with that headline? :lol:

 

Law enforcement as a whole is changing, policies/general orders ect. over the past 15 yrs law enforcement has gotten more people freindly. with patrol divisons being renamed neighborhood policing, trying to help the citizens overcome their problems by directing them to the proper places to get the help they need. We also have to respond to homes and answer legal, code enforcement, building questions.

Here if your stopped and your bleeding the FD is called to the scene and you are transported to the Hospital and placed in gaurded custody (if you have a warrant) before being transported to the jail.

15 yrs ago if you walked up to a police man and he asked you your name, and you replied puddintag ask me again and I'll tell you the same he'd knock your block off, and you'd tell him your name.

Today we just send them to jail and book them as John Doe, and charge them for obstructing justice.
15yrs ago if you drove by a cop and shot him the bird he would pull you over and find a broken tail light, now they might pull you over and do a vehicle saftey check & burn up 15 - 20min of your time.

being a police officer just isnt the same as it was 15yrs ago, where the police may have been feared ,due to people feeling intimidated by the uniform & the billy bad-a$$ in the uniform. I got news for ya, now for the most part theres no respect or intmidation we are just thankless citizens doing a thankless job.

Wanna put your self in a cops shoes?
Just think of it as you go to work from 5a-5p or 5p-5a.
1. You have to drive around in circles all day or night, pull over traffic law violaters.
2. You have to listen to people complain about everything. (examples):
A. Complaints on neighbors grass clipings blowing into their yards, or the dog crapped in the yard.
B. Complaints on the heavy set woman that weeds her flower beds in a string bikini next door. (yuck)
C. Burglaries the complaintant is surprised that someone would break into their car even though they left valuables out in plain sight.
D. Complaints due to an online purchase with a credit card and now someone else is charging up your account.
E. Complaints becuase the kid down the street keyed your car be cause you called the cops on him for playing war with cap guns.
F. ect, ect,ect,

3. drunks pee or crap or vomit in your car on the way to jail.
4. arrestees spit in your face and tell you they have Hepititis.
5. The druggie you stopped for blowing a red light and you search his car and prick your finger on the hypo needle under the seat.
6. going to the guys house that just flipped out and shot his wife and neghbor with a AK-47, and youve got a 9mm pistol..

The list goes on & on

But I guess someones got to do it.......

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(priusguy04 @ Feb 1 2007, 11:54 AM) [snapback]383912[/snapback]</div>

:lol: :lol: :lol:



Tell me there's a law for this PLEASE!! If not, there oughta be!

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ Feb 1 2007, 11:08 AM) [snapback]383885[/snapback]</div>

i saw this on CNN or something at the gym last night as well. and the OP reminded me of this too.

they showed the conversation on the TV and the sarcasm on the part of the officer was disgusting. the woman was upset, saying she was pregnant, bleeding and wanted to go to the hospital. the officer said "it's called a menstrual cycle." and went on about how she was in bigger trouble with the police.

Wth is that?

someone in need of medical care should be allowed to obtain such. no matter how much crap they may have to put up with, the police should not be allowed to make the decision as to whether/when medical care should be administered. period.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galaxee @ Feb 1 2007, 03:50 PM) [snapback]384002[/snapback]</div>

Which brings up the fact that some people should not be officers. However, if the Chief fires him, s/he will get everyone on his/her side (FOP, atty's, civil service) saying s/he is OK. And, here I go, don't kick me, I am just the messenger.......PARTICULARLY if said cop is a minority or female.

I have been there.........in charge of the training program....it is HELL firing someone once they "pin on the badge", and it is the publics fault.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Schmika @ Feb 1 2007, 06:10 PM) [snapback]384150[/snapback]</div>

OMG! this is such a true statement!!!! I have seen supervisors that really shouldnt have been... Same goes for officers. Once they are past thier 1 year probation, its hard to get let go unless you get caught stealing, raping someone or trying to pick up children on the internet. They just move them to another division (so they don't really go away) just hidden from view for a while.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MikeQBF @ Jan 31 2007, 03:03 PM) [snapback]383546[/snapback]</div>

It SOP to run backgrounds and has been well before 9/11.

Wildkow