Updated Sales Reports for Toyota

Discussion in 'Toyota Hybrids and EVs' started by drash, Jul 8, 2024.

  1. Prodigyplace

    Prodigyplace 2025 Camry XLE FWD

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    I think the American marketing & executive management are more of a concern here than factory management.

    My 2000 Tundra has been an excellent vehicle. We replaced the serpentine belt several years ago & I will be getting the timing belt replaced due to age before it fails. Other than regular maintenance items, I have had no issues. I did suffer from the oxygen sensors but the truck was not included on the recall. no rust issues. The only other recall, shortly after I bought it, was to replace the oil dipstick. They mailed me a new one because some original ones were too short.
     
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    Prodigyplace 2025 Camry XLE FWD

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    Some people say so. Most of the complaints I have seen likely relate to upper management decisions on included features. Many people do not like the heavy steel hood & prop in comparison with the struts & aluminum hood of prior years, especially since Japan made Camry has the struts,
     
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    So no on a measurable difference. It has been a long running trend that Japan made cars have less problems than their US made counter parts. There doesn't seem to be any evidence to back that up.

    This is not a quality, as in quality control, issue. A different hood isn't going to lead to more problems. It may feel like lower quality in another sense, but Japan and the US are two different markets. In Japan, cars of the size are more upscale, and shows in the price. Looks like the Camry there runs about $2000 more than here. Add that to the US Camry, and people will go to Honda and Hyundai for the ICE option.

    You may disagree with the US management decisions, but that doesn't mean they are wrong

    PS: Toyota USA is the reason why the gen4 Prime didn't have a battery the size of the PiP's.
     
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    Prodigyplace 2025 Camry XLE FWD

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    Muy US produced 2000 Tundra and Canadian produced 2008 Corolla both have been extremely reliable vehicles,
     
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    TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA REPORTS 2024 U.S. SALES RESULTS - Lexus USA Newsroom
    Hot points for the Calendar Year 2024 sales:
    • Lexus records its best ever full sales year
    • Number one passenger car seller for the 13th consecutive year
    • 44.5% of Toyota sales were electrified for a total of 883,426 Hybrids, Plug-in Hybrids, Battery Electric Vehicles, and Fuel Cell Electric Vehicles
    • 35.6% of Lexus sales were electrified for a total of 123,035 Hybrids, Plug-in Hybrids, and Battery Electric Vehicles
    And here's the final figures.
    Place,Vehicle,Number Sold (YTD)
    1,Toyota RAV4 Hybrid,208356
    2,Toyota Camry Hybrid,205156
    3,Toyota Sienna,75008
    4,Toyota Corolla Hybrid,50190
    5,Lexus RX Hybrid,42876
    6,Toyota Tundra Hybrid,37010
    7,Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid,35289
    8,Toyota Venza, 32086
    9,Toyota Prius,32039
    10,Toyota RAV4 Prime,31093
    11,Land Cruiser,29113
    12,Lexus NX Hybrid,27129
    13,Toyota Grand Highlander Hybrid,26119
    14,Toyota Sequoia,26091
    15,Toyota Highlander Hybrid,24777
    16,Toyota Crown,19648
    17,Toyota bZ4X,18570
    18,Lexus ES Hybrid,18481
    19,Toyota Prius Prime,12672
    20,Toyota Crown Signia,10263
    21,Lexus RZ,9697
    22,Toyota Tacoma Hybrid,9444
    23,Lexus UX,8877
    24,Lexus NX 450h+,6301
    25,Lexus TX Hybrid,4812
    26,Lexus RX 450h+,4248
    27,Lexus TX 550h+,502
    28,Toyota Mirai,499
    29,Lexus LS 500h,94
    30,Lexus LC 500h,18
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    Although the Toyota RAV4 Hybrid kept it's number 1 spot for 2025 sales, for the month of December, the Camry Hybrid with the 2025 MY being all hybrid actually beat the RAV4 Hybrid by 26,789 to 20,612. 2025 sales lists for the Camry will list only Camry and not Camry Hybrid.

    The one thing that bugs me about Toyota sales reports (PDF chart download) is they list Sienna sales with the Total Pickup sales. o_O On their newsroom website, they list the Sienna with the cars. :whistle:. Not sure why the discrepancy. Just a little tidbit of info here.
     
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    Only 4618 Prius Prime sold worldwide?
    No wonder I've never seen another one.
     
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    i see 12,672 prius prime for n/a
     
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    Apparently, I don't know how to read the numbers.
     
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    That 4,618 number was the number of Prius Primes sold in the first half of 2024. (The original post that contained that number was posted on July 8, 2024.)

    The 12,672 number is the total for the entire 2024 year.
     
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    US Sales. It is in the report title. As somebody else pointes out, that was only for part of the year.
     
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    Then there’s the (Prius) sales numbers for the early 2010’s; those were the days my friends…

    Toyota Prius - Wikipedia
     
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    Everything has its day. There are so many options today, it makes 2010 look like the horse and buggy era
     
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    Using the term ‘electrified vehicle’ to include HEVs still is very disappointing.
    It is very misleading when the rest of the industry refers to ‘electric vehicles’ to include only plugin vehicles.
     
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    Once you take a position, you’ve got to defend it to the death
     
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    I loved my 2012, but compared to what I have now, it seems like a Model T.
     
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    I do not know. I kinda like that I'm driving a car that no one has ever seen before.

    Post edit: I wrote "I dunn0," but it auto-corrected to "I do not know."
    Not the same nuance.
     
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    Exactly, that bugs me too.
     
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    Well for the first time in 40 years, The Ford F-150 is no longer America's best selling vehicle. That honor belongs to the Toyota RAV4 (all varieties).
    Toyota RAV4 Ends Ford F-150’s Reign As America’s Best-Seller | Carscoops

    At 475,193 it beat the Ford F-150 sales of 460,915.(y) Pretty amazing that 239,449 of those sales were hybrids and plug-in hybrids which is 50.4% of total RAV4 sales.
     
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    Toyota Motor North America Reports March, First Quarter 2025 U.S. Sales Results - Lexus USA Newsroom

    And the big winner for the 1st calendar quarter of 2025 for hybrids, plug-in hybrids (PHEV), battery electric vehicles (BEV) and fuel cell electric vehicles (FCEV) is: Toyota Camry
    It kind of buried the RAV4 Hybrid by more than 20,000 sales in the first quarter of 2025 so it looks like sedans are coming back. Three of the top 10 vehicles in this list sold were hybrid sedans and totaled 97,697 or 43.5% of the top 10. Arguably, the Toyota Crown Signia may be seen as a wagon by some.

    Place Vehicle Number Sold (YTD)
    1 1 Toyota Camry 70281
    2 2 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid 49513
    3 3 Toyota Sienna 23559
    4 4 Toyota Land Cruiser 15416
    5 5 Toyota Corolla Hybrid 14523
    6 6 Toyota Prius 12893
    7 7 Toyota Grand Highlander Hybrid 10984
    8 8 Lexus RX Hybrid 10635
    9 9 Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid 8900
    10 10 Toyota Crown Signia 7908
    11 11 Lexus NX Hybrid 7646
    12 12 Toyota Highlander Hybrid 6641
    13 13 Toyota RAV4 Plug-in Hybrid 6355
    14 14 Toyota Tacoma Hybrid 5996
    15 15 Toyota bZ4X 5610
    16 16 Toyota Tundra Hybrid 5380
    17 17 Toyota Sequoia 5107
    18 18 Toyota Prius Plug-in Hybrid 3760
    19 19 Lexus ES Hybrid 3524
    20 20 Lexus NX 450h+ 2656
    21 21 Lexus UX 2525
    22 22 Toyota Crown 2236
    23 23 Lexus RX 450h+ 2037
    24 24 Lexus TX 500h 1928
    25 25 Lexus RZ 1454
    26 26 Toyota Venza 672
    27 27 Lexus LX 700h 317
    28 28 Toyota 4Runner Hybrid 147
    29 29 Lexus TX 550h+ 137
    30 30 Toyota Mirai 33
    31 31 Lexus LS 500h 18
    32 32 Lexus LC 500h 4


    key: Lexus PHEVs all have the model h+ trailing. RAV4 Prime and Prius Prime have renamed Prime to Plug-in Hybrid for the 2025 model year although the totals may include Prime models still being sold. Toyota bZ4X and Lexus RZ are battery electric vehicles (BEV) while the Toyota Mirai is the only fuel cell electric vehicle (FCEV). Single model names are all hybrid, i.e. Camry, Land Cruiser, Venza, Sequoia, Sienna, Lexus UX, etc..

    Lexus had its best ever 1st quarter and 48.6% sold were hybrids, PHEVs and BEVs (Lexus has no FCEVs). Moving rapidly up the chart to number 4 was the Toyota Land Cruiser which has the same hybrid system as the Tacoma Hybrid and 4Runner Hybrid. Some of that can attributed to a hold on sales because of incorrect payload capacity ratings documentation. Toyota Crown Signia moved 10 spots up to number 10. The Sienna maintained its lock on number 3. New on the chart is the Lexus LX 700h while the Toyota Venza may have seen its last sales as it is no longer made for the North American market.
     
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    Prodigyplace 2025 Camry XLE FWD

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    Camry was also their best selling Hybrid in 2024. Overall, it was #2 but #1 was RAV4 which included all variants. The 2025 Camry Hybrid only came out in early 2024.