SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by tochatihu, Jan 26, 2020.

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  1. bisco

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    Our daughter had it, you do not want it
     
    #7021 bisco, Feb 27, 2025 at 1:53 PM
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    I see a new drug for improved pneumonia resistance.
    After having it last year, do not want it again.
    I’ll talk to my doctor next appointment
     
    #7022 bisco, Feb 27, 2025 at 1:54 PM
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    Sounds like measles is back and RFK Jr. is right on it. He claimed those in the hospital were there for isolation and didn't mention their isolated respiratory treatment so they won't die. He should visit the hospital directly and get the facts and data. Take some of his friends from CPAC with him too.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    I don't get the measles thing, much less children dying from measles. Didn't many of the 60s parents have chicken pox & measles & mumps parties so that they could get all their kids herd immunity at one time? Or was that just done with mumps or chicken pox.
     
    #7024 hill, Feb 27, 2025 at 8:50 PM
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    I had some of those parents and I may have heard that I am a survivor of a measles party. I don't remember it so can't complain much. Don't think I'd have complained about the vaccine either.
     
    #7025 ChapmanF, Feb 27, 2025 at 10:30 PM
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    Chicken pox parties 1950s 1960s maybe 1970s were to spread childhood infections of this low-fatality disease, to expand immunity against adult onset, known to be worse. No one would sensibly have a measles party because that is more fatal. do not know about mumps or rubella.

    MMR vaccines arrived about 1971. Chicken pox vaccines arrived about 1995. Following those developments, ‘infection parties’ had no luster.

    Measles is a bad boy with apparently highest Ro infectivity and with some fatality. MMR vaccine against it has done extremely well globally, but with its very high Ro, very high %vaccinated are required.

    Current hot media on US measles infection has centered on communities where vaccinations are far below (what as seen as ideal) 95%. Not to diminish this, 2019 was much worse for US measles (do your research). Now it seems that some vaccine hesitant are signing up:

    https://gizmodo.com/measles-outbreak-in-texas-turns-deadly-as-parents-scramble-for-shots-2000568730

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    There is a chance that new HHS leadership will act against public welfare. I hope more that public in general will rise above that.
     
    #7026 tochatihu, Feb 27, 2025 at 11:01 PM
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    Measles 0.4% die. Chicken pox 0.004% die. Measles parties would have posed 100X higher death risk than chicken pox parties. Not saying that parents at the time would have had actual data.
     
    #7027 tochatihu, Feb 27, 2025 at 11:24 PM
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    We are beset by newly challenging diseases. I ask that someone starts a separate 'new disease risk' discussion here.
     
    #7028 tochatihu, Feb 27, 2025 at 11:36 PM
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    My "party" was as a grade school student.

    Bob Wilson
     
    #7029 bwilson4web, Feb 28, 2025 at 12:55 AM
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