Reflections on Musk

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  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    I suspect Musk will (or has) moved on from Tesla to Twitter/X, SpaceX and his other, fully owned businesses. Asperger syndrome is something I first heard when he was on Saturday Night Live. Later, his biography mentioned it. But it reads like what we used to call "Idiot Savant." A type of autism where technical brilliance is married with a near total disregard for others.

    When Elon started at Tesla, his efforts were for EVs and later, renewable energy. Those were popular back then. He has succeeded brilliantly and he received well deserved, public acclaim. But then he got in feud with the SEC about Twitter postings and he found others willing to give him acclaim from a different point of view.

    When people claim Elon is the richest man on Earth, they are looking at the shares he owns and current price. But that price is a popularity contest between the buyers and sellers. The intrinsic worth of Tesla is smaller. But now at Tesla he has new products that do not appeal to me: (1) Optimus robot, (2) Cybertruck, and (3) the semi-tractor. In effect, he is moving Tesla towards customers who are not me.

    I appreciate the incidental improvements of Full Self Driving (FSD) and my 2019 Model 3. But these seem 'weak' to me. For example, the latest 2025 Model 3 gets the same "25 kWh/100 mi" as my 2019 Model 3. Certainly FSD is much improved since November 2024 but it still makes mistakes.

    When I see him enjoying the "borrowed" popularity of our sociopath in chief, I see someone who tries to follow what is popular at the moment. He certainly enjoys technical achievements but borrowed fame is fleeting. Just ask the ghost of Richard Nixon.

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    A fool! Says it all.
     
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    I agree with the first half of your post.
    The quoted part I don’t. I agree that Musk doesn’t care about people.
    However, I also don’t believe he cares, or is swayed by what people think.

    Electric cars certainly weren’t popular when he first got involved with Tesla.

    That said, he is an engineer. He seems to identify a problem and then go after it with phenomenal results. His drive is impressive.
    Sadly, he has gotten sucked into extreme right conspiracy theories and is now working against some of his own accomplishments.
     
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    That ship has sailed. But the sociopath in chief might use it when he wants to screw Elon.
     
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    He us not an engineer. He is a master of grifting, fraud and dark finance.

    Beyond that; he is a psychopath.

    Hitler's drive was impressive, too.
     
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    Musk has degrees in Physics and Economics. He is not an engineer by training, but has shown multiple times that he can successfully lead engineering efforts to develop state of the art products.

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  8. Georgina Rudkus

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    There is a big difference between pure and applied science.

    Production is totally different than synthesis in the laboratory.

    In the 1930's, I G Farben and Standard Oil had a working relationship to develop both synthetic oil and rubber.

    The US was never to produce either on an industrial scale, because I G Farben did not share the production process with Standard Oil and kept it their trade secret.

    There is a between being the synthesizer or invention and the marketer.

    The real Tesla was a great inventor and engineer, but a terrible marketer.
     
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    Munk is simply bringing his business techniques to government.
    How will it work out? Idk, they are entirely two different entities
     
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    Those regimes that run a society like a business are effectively doomed to failure.

    The NAZI regime considered certain groups as useless eaters and worked and starved them to death. These they referred to as the Untermensch.

    They referred to it as Todt durch albeit.
     
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