Codes that tell ICE engine to run…

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  1. Frankusa94

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    Hello, is anyone aware of a Prius app that would let you know …what particular parameter is instructing the ECU… to run the ICE engine? I currently have a situation where the battery display is fully Green, engine temp is at 190f ..per hybrid assistant app… climate control is OFF, check engine light is OFF, … yet the engine continues to run … even while cruising on flat grade at 28mp. In past …engine would be OFF in these situations. I would love to know… what parameter is causing the engine to run.
    I use Dr. Prius and hybrid assistant to monitor engine performance…neither tell me what is causing engine to run…. Would Toyota dealer see such info… might be worth the diagnostic cost…any thoughts?
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    I don't know but conscientious Toyota tech that works on these cars at the Toyota dealer might be able to look at the freeze frame data and tell you why the car is running the engine but every time this happened are you going to want to go to the dealer and pay a diagnostic fee for the guy to come out and tell you exactly why the engines running at this particular moment in time every time this happens I wouldn't think so you'd get tired of that real quick generally the car's smarter than we are but if you want to carry that further how much gas mileage have you lost with this engine running business that you're talking of how much has it cost you in fuel exactly when you know that and it's worth a discussion for you or whoever you're talking to then maybe something might happen I don't know. But really seriously are you losing gas mileage over this because it didn't do that last week you know last week it could have been 70° out and all kinds of different things or what have you I don't know where you are the car is or any of that but I'm sure there's a reason that the ice engine is running We just don't know what that reason is and maybe that's bothering us but it wouldn't bother me until it was costing me It may be running now but it may not be running in a minute and all of that on and on.
     
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    lol… I hear you… No… I would not run to Toyota each time… what I am hoping for… is an app that would tell me why the car is doing what it’s doing… via code or such. It is dropping my mpg into upper 30’s … but it’s more about my desire to keep the car running at peak efficiency. I can fix most car issues myself…so understanding the prius operating logic via some app… would be very useful… hence my question to the community of such an app or their experiences with this.

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    No I don't think so an app No I don't think there's any app The app would be the freeze frame data and the knowledge to know how to read it and interpret what you're actually seeing and reading and that would be much too complicated for most general people they're not having any part of that sounds like it would be certainly an interesting project
     
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    It would be nice if the report from the hybrid reporter was attached.

    In this case, it is necessary to understand all the factors that were present.
     
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    One can only hope… I’ll bet Toyota has a system that would show which parameter is telling the engine to run… would be super helpfully understanding what’s is going on in the process… wish there was an app that displayed that info,..
     
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    Here.
    Idle Check | PriusChat
     
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    I really doubt such a thing exists. All that data is buried in the code that's used to program the hybrid control ecu. That's the boss of the hybrid drive and decides when to run the ICE.

    There are inputs from the HV battery ecu, driver's controls, HVAC, etc.

    example - If you have the heater on (ie, the set temperature is higher than outside ambient & blower is on), then the HC ecu will aggressively run the ICE to maintain heater temps.

    The only output I have seen is somewhere in ICE data is "engine run request - yes/no". (At least that was in ICE freezeframe data)

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    Purely OCD editorial:

    What you're saying there is "...to run the internal combustion engine engine...".
     
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    Interesting parameter you mention... wath app where you using capture the freeze frame data?
     
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    Correct ... I may looking to identify... what system is triggering the ecu to run the ICE... I suspect Toyota has such a tool... wond
    Correct!... there must be a sub system that send a "signal" to ecu that in tern ...runs the engine... I would like to know ... what subsystem or parameter is sending that signal... in hopes of pinning down what might wrong...
     
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    There should be a fine anybody has to pay for writing something like that. They can pay it by taking money out at the ATM machine...

    ...which only works when it's plugged in to AC current...

    ...and also if nothing is wrong with its RAM memory...

    The fine could be called the Initialism Noun Repetition Fine. Or the INRF fine, for short.

    I'm guessing there is something about the brain that really doesn't like having the noun in a phrase buried inside of an initialism, so will pretty much always half-consciously dig the noun back out and repeat it. Maybe what's weird is, with that seeming so universal, people still make up initialisms with the noun buried inside, like daring people to do what people will do.
     
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    You missed VIN number. And we could go on.

    I've never quite understood the need, to stipulate that the engine in the prius is of the "internal combustion" ilk. but I guess you never know.

    I've grumped enough.
     
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    It's a shibboleth. Anybody who just calls it the 'engine' must not want badly enough to be let into the club.
     
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    I'm happy with ICE or engine, just not ICE engine. I don't care whether I'm deemed in the club or not.
    Thanks for posting that, now I don't have to, which is just as well because my post would have been less comprehensive and less thought-provoking. :);)