Gen three front left wheel, bearing new one went bad.Does anybody ever replace the knuckle

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    guys. I replaced a wheel bearing left front. I have all new suspension. When I turn, I was getting a clicking sound, not like a half shaft, like a heat shield or something
    I Jack the car up and I can see. I have to play where bearing meets the knuckle.
    I ordered a new bearing and I ordered a knuckle anyway.
    My question is the Detroit axle brand for about 60 bucks or so could that be the problem? After market wheel, bearings are not that good. Now I have a new one in the back. It's been fine and I got its baby brother waiting. To be put on when the weather's warm right now, it's 20°. Any advice on the bearings can help.
    when I jacked the car up and I moved the tire, I could watch play. It was so cold. I didn't get a good visual to see if the bearing is kind of like moving out of the hub so I bought both anyway.
     
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    When you say the knuckle you're talking about the whole aluminum piece that holds the bearing that holds your tie rod end and your lower ball joint taper drops on and bolts on? If so no I've never replaced one of those generation two and three they're almost identical I just unbolt the bearing whack it out over to 2x4s or 4x4s and the bearing falls out and drops onto the wood flip the assembly over drop the new bearing in without taking any special care at all and apply the four bolts I do this with the business off the car much easier to work with and then I take that piece of aluminum and drop it on the lower ball joint and apply the nut or if I do it like a normally do the ball joint is still attached on the bottom it's been undone with the nut and the two bolts from the control arm I don't know how that piece of aluminum is just going to go bad Just sitting there nothing happens on it The bearing is bolted to the piece of aluminum and nothing spinning is touching the aluminum so it's just sitting there It gets 130° or something on a good warm day or what have you but nothing any swap in the bearing or any of that business would be in the bearing that is literally bolted to that big hunk of aluminum or the knuckle so if you have slop in that business It must be the bearing acting up like I say it's bolted down and you see something moving side to side or what have you I would think that would definitely be the bearing how it's pressed together and so on not the hub or the knuckle.
     
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    I got the knuckle just in case I just replaced this hub. Assembly 3 months ago, when I Jack it up, it was so cold this morning outside my garage. I shook the wheel. I could see the bearing going in and out. I gotta look at the bearing up close and see if the bearing has the play or It's not seating. Well, in the hub I won't know till I look better but I got both parts. I'm thinking the aftermarket. Hope bearing is a poor quality. This one's coming from Detroit. Axel, I bought a different $155, but OEM is 150 gotta be a reason.
     
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    But the bearing bolts into the hub wants the bearing is bolted into the hub It can't really be moving around what would be moving is the pressed pieces of the bearing itself . The hub itself is just a dumb piece of aluminum with some threaded holes and some tapered holes to accept ball joints and tie rod ends so unless the holes are stripped that are holding the bolts in that are holding the bearing down to the hub any movement you're seeing is bearing slop or the like. I've got a ton of these things off the cars sitting around on the ground out here I've never seen one damaged not seen bearings half apart from old age and worn out and about to fall the pieces. But that big hunk of aluminum that they're all screwed into and you're not going to hurt that unless you set it on fire and it melts or I can't even imagine I guess it could get hit hard enough in an accident and bend it or bend the tie rod excepting part or something like that.
     
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    Thanks for your reply . I am getting another hub bearing tommorow.
    So recap. That solid aluminum knuckle don't really go bad.
    The new hub i bolted on has a probably defective hub bearing. Just on case I got an aftermarket spindle coming. Cause I need the car.
    We are very cold here. Till Friday Saturday. I will jack it up. Get my light out and look at the play in the bearing.
    Thank you.
     
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    I've had really good luck with the TRQ brand of bearings on Amazon some say not everyone I've ordered so far I've got 100,000 miles on a pair of them and I put them on several other cars I own four generation twos and they're about the same thing as the generation 3 the hubs are almost identical as far as makeup and bearing and all that I believe the parts would swap over actually if you really wanted to but what's the point I'm just saying that hunk of aluminum there's nothing really to go bad unless you melt it or bend it so an accident or a blowtorch. But I have seen bearings come apart while they're in bolted in the hub so that can happen they used to be pressed together with the press and a shop That's how you would get the spindle and the bearing on and all that together with the press and so it was nothing for them to become unpressed when they wore out balls would fall out and all that.
     
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    Do not get trq hubs! They are crap! They only last a few thousand miles.
    Decades ago they were good, but not anymore.
    If you get the MOOG hubs made in America, they are still good.

     
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    Think that's the problem. I brought cheap aftermarket hub.
     
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    As I replaced many parts in my life. I am seeing the moog and oem for $150 each as per $50 aftermarket online. That's got to be the difference. Cheap parts. I got another cheap one coming in a hurry so my car stays up. Not hard to install. After this one. I will buy only Toyota. Oem thanks all.
     
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    That doesn't even really make sense but sounds good Why don't you just go to a junkyard and take one off another car that big piece of aluminum just doesn't go bad unless you smash it into something or melt it so I'm not sure where all the problems are coming in most of the hubs I would think are remanufactured I wouldn't think brand new but absolutely I don't know how you could mess that up I guess you could get the land that the bearing bolts to too deep or too shallow but that wouldn't make it wobble back and forth as the thing is bolted in the whole stripped and don't hold bearing . Just want you to look carefully as that big hunk of aluminum that takes your tie rod your bottom ball joint and your bearing is pretty dead and I wouldn't think you could well really screw it up but anything is possible generally I just go to a place and take one off another car buy it from the junkyard already off.
     
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    At the time I didn’t have the money for OEM. After replacing the trq hubs 3 times in less than a year,
    it was enough. The MOOG ones are still good after 4 years, MANY miles…
    I was getting noise, and thinking it was the hubs, I did replace the hubs. But it is the tires. :oops:

    Autozone only has some cheapo ones and their duralast ones, that the manager said are made by
    Moog and can’t understand why they can’t get the Moog ones any longer.
    I’ll be driving about 1/2 the miles I’ve been driving so I’m hoping these will last more than the 4 I had.
     
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    Damn I guess I've been really lucky I don't know how that works because I'm one of the most unluckiest people in the world knock on nothing. But I've had absolutely no problems again knocking on nothing unless it's been a problem or something but I'm glad to hear your plight with that stuff because I have some TRQ coils that failed rather quickly well at least one did out of the four and so on and they've been very ugly about straightening the mess out and I got money I don't care about their jigga nonsense. Like I told the guy at the desk or wherever I'm talking to it's the point of the thing I don't care about you your company or any of that nonsense It's just the point your advertising say you build stuff that's worth a damn your product shows that that's not the case and now I will make it my personal mission to tell everybody that I come in contact with that these TRQ electronic products that I purchased failed in short order so they must be being made by the companies that make these products without any insight to what they're doing they just buy stuff and start assembling so there you go. I mean an electronic parts there is a percentage of waste that's just going to be and generally manufactures know this and they make you whole on a failure until the failures become so large that they're going to go bankrupt trying to keep up.
     
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    Thanks for the replies. I been learning on autozone parts say pruis water pump is very hi price same as the hubs.
    On ebay u can get oem from Toyota same price as auto store.
    I got this bearing because they looked affordable.
    I brought oct 10 th ? Ouch. Another one comes Saturday.
    If it do last. It probably won't. I will get oem on ebay.
    Lucky I got a driveway outside my small car garage. All impact guns. And nice jack. Never thought I was not doing good using aftermarket.
    Both times like before and now. I need it 2 fast.