I would need a C Cross Hybrid XSE without any upgrades if I was getting one. They are coming in just as slowly as the Prius in my area. Most are coming in loaded and priced at $36-37k because the upgrades are bundled. I’m on a forum where someone reported that her base model rear lights are so dim she was stopped by the police. Apparently some of the back lighting is reflectors rather than bulbs? Maybe that’s typical these days? Supposedly the XSE is brighter due to LED lights. Issues with breaks failing. Apparently not isolated to CCH. Manual driver seat sinking (lowering itself) as you are driving. I guess Toyota isn’t what it used to be. That red is pretty!
You may be forced into some upgrades. For instance, nobody seems to have found a Camry XLE that does not include the panoramic moonroof although it is optional.At least in the In my region, cars are specced & assigned to the dealer by the distributor, Other regions likely bundle different options. Good luck in your search. i found Toyota's inventory search a good first step in locating a vehicle. Many are sole before hitting the dealer lots.
Casting a geographically wide net can help with that. In my area, nearly every Prius had mudguards and door side molding. My brother took me along for a test drive of a Corolla Cross and I loved it. I appreciated the additional sidewall on broken pavement and the interior room was ample. I still think of it fondly each time I raise my fat can out of the Prius.
Thanks. I’m talking about the more expensive built-in add ons like the moonroof, JBL radio, power lift hatch. I’m not in the position to be forced into these because they are beyond my budget. I personally don’t think the CCH is worth spending $36-38k. I guess if I had money to burn, it wouldn’t matter so much.
I'm gathering that there is something on the XSE you do want or need. SEs around me can be had for 32-ish before tax. That's a ton of money. I bought my prius for 30-ish, also a ton of money. $30k is the new $20K. The calculator in my head is still calibrated to being able to buy a good enough new car for $15,000. I know I'm wrong, but I can't make the jump to being comfortable with dropping almost $40k on a cheap car.
Yes. I basically would want the base XSE which has upgraded lights, power seat adjustments and heated seats but do not want moon roof. Not crazy about the softex/cloth combo seats. Which ever gets here first. I just read that someone’s new XSE moonroof glass shattered and is not covered under warranty. I guess it would be hard to prove it wasn’t an external cause. Someone else has crazing on their entire Prius windshield. Noticed something weird when they drove off the lot but thought it was protection film from shipping. Yikes.
I noticed that the Corolla Cross has similar taillights to my Gen 4 Prius Prime—the latter of which being some of the best taillight design ever out there.
And, @daisy555, you won't be able to get any kind of Toyota after all. You jinxed the whole economy. LOL 25% tariffs on all foreign vehicles coming in April | PriusChat
The sales manager already joked about the cars possibly being held due to tariffs. Just like the tariffs on Mexico and Canada, right? I guess many will be financially limited to Toyotas made in the US. None of this is funny. If that conman gets his way, many will be sleeping in their cars.
It is possible to obsess about a new car's reported and perceived problems. My experience with new cars is you will quickly find something that gives you pause, you might have momentary buyer's remorse but you get over it. You then settle in for the honeymoon. Which in a Toyota is usually the first 150,000 miles. Real problems, if they exist (gen 3), might show later. You can still love it with its flaws or you can trade it in on a new model (or at least a younger one with less baggage). No one wants an exciting model that is high maintenance. So it's better to love and lost than buy new at all.