Horn stuck on/P lock malfunction help request

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  1. guardian452

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    Hi first post,
    I was driving my 2010 Prius home last night when my horn (which hasn’t worked in the 15 months I’ve owned the car) got stuck on while driving.
    I pulled into a driveway thinking that turning the car off would fix the horn but nope… I eventually figured out that by pulling the ‘abs mtr 1, 2, P/I 2’ fuse it killed the horn but when I got back in the car I had the ‘P lock malfunction’ screen on my dash with the orange triangle etc lit up and a lot of beeping.
    I can put the car in neutral but it still can’t be pushed/feels like it’s still in park and I had to have a tow truck take it home and disconnected the battery terminal before going inside.
    Today I disconnected the 12v battery (3 years old) and took it to Batteries Plus where they told me it is still good. Research online suggested that the 12v battery, the relay integration in the fuse box and a faulty clock spring are the most likely culprits. The rest of the electronics on the steering wheel still work so I don’t really think the clockspring is the issue, which leaves the relay integration.

    So my question to all you people much smarter than me is what else could it be, what other options can I try to help narrow it down? No salvage yards around me have the relay in stock and I don’t want to wait a week plus on shipping for a maybe. What else can I still try?

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    Car is over 200k.
    I’m in Idaho so it has been pretty cold lately.
    I pulled the integration relay out of the fuse box without unplugging anything from the bottom and a quick peek at the wiring didn’t show any obvious signs of being the issue.
     
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    I wonder if @SFO or @ChapmanF could help?

    Basically, you need to test the horn circuit to isolate the problem. First step would be giving electrical power to the horn in the amount it needs to confirm the horn isn't the source of the malfunction and then you'd work your way back up the circuit.

    Also I can say from personal experience in my teenage years I have several memories of friends who had their horns stuck on and couldn't get it turned off and kept driving around like that for days, sometimes weeks... Lol... Cars in the 1980's still had problems like that.

    Also on a more serious note my sister's volkswagon rabbit I used as my first car had a broken horn that I ignored getting fixed until one day a lost UPS driver backed up a steep hill with me behind him and he couldn't see me and I kept yelling and he didnt here me. Finally, when he stopped I jumped out of my car to get his attention and he started backing up again and I had to jump in the car and back up again. Finally he heard me burning rubber trying to back up fast enough.

    Seriously folks, don't drive a vehicle that doesn't have a functional horn! It's not worth the risk!
     
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    Check for codes with a Prius aware scanner, corrosion is often a culprit
     
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    Pulling that fuse killed abs mtr 1, abs mtr 2, and everything fed by the integration relay (including the horn, low-beam headlights, backup lights, defoggers, PTC heaters, and the system that shifts the transmission in and out of park).
     
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    I hate when that happens
     
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    I was just getting ready to say You got the wrong fuse out there's one clearly marked horn I do believe but I think it might be inside the car or you could just literally unplug the horn under the hood seriously and not touch any fuses just unplug the horn then while you're testing the horn you could put a light bulb to ground from the horn contact now the light bulbs lit and you can see that while you're working on the mess and when it goes out while you're inside the car you found your problem on a Gen 3 You may have to undo the clips on the horn pad and lift that up and see does it feel like you're horn button still pushes in and out I have a Gen 3 steering wheel in the generation 2 car that's the only thing I don't like about the steering wheel is the horn button and the way it clips on instead of the normal torx bit or whatever screws
     
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    No separate horn fuse in gen 3. The high-pitch (blue) and low-pitch (black) horn wires just run straight from the integration relay to the horns. The overcurrent protection for them is in the integration relay itself.

    The horn switch arives at the integration relay as a sky-blue wire at 1G pin 18. It should normally be open-circuit, and is pulled to ground when the horn pad is pushed.

    If the integration relay puts 12 volts on pins 5 (blue) and 6 (black) when 18 (sky blue) is grounded, and not when 18 isn't grounded, then the relay is doing what it's supposed to.

    If pin 18 is being pulled to ground when no one is pressing the horn pad, something is funky in the switch wiring or spiral cable. Conversely, if it's not being pulled to ground then but the integration relay is still supplying power on 5 and 6, then the relay is kaput.
     
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    I put an odb2 sensor on w the Dr. Prius and it didn’t throw any codes related to this, just an evap code that I was already aware of. Thank you for the suggestion, I appreciate it.
     
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    Oh, awesome that is helpful info to know while I’m trying to figure this out, I appreciate it. Guess I have some work this weekend to try and get it up and running (quietly).

    This forum is amazing and has helped with some previous issues as well. Thanks for replying everyone, if I didn’t reply back specifically to you I still appreciate the input. If anyone has any other advice, keep on posting, I love learning new little facts about this car!!
     
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    UPDATE: I disconnected the horns and put the fuse back in, which did fix the p lock malfunction and I was able to move the car from the street to my parking spot.
    My new question is kind of dumb, but while I wait for the new integration relay to get shipped, can I drive my car or is what caused the horn to get stuck in the first place going to drain my battery or cause a short or anything like that?
     
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    You should be back to normal operation although the horn is shorted the ground and beeping constantly but the horn is unplugged so that load is gone now your car should be back to the way it was before whatever happened to the integration relay foreign circuit I would think so when you move the car with the horns unplugged and integration relay set back in place and all that and he lights on to make you think that something's wrong and then there's probably not I would be driving mine to see if it would and it should.
     
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    Now who can argue with that?