SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

My Wife, who gets her Flu Shots every year, called me home from work early last night needing to go to the Hospital. By the time I got here out of there this morning, the Doc. said she had the Flu and that about a quarter of the people in there were in for the same thing. BTW...She had her recent Flu Shot in October 2024. Go figure.

 

October 2024? Why, that's longer ago than I last had COVID (before getting it again last week).

So if that somehow shows Flu Shots "don't work", then I guess I've just shown natural immunity "doesn't work" either.

More likely, neither shows any such thing.

 

Seasonal yearly flu shot in the Fall.

Good thing they didn't promise it would stop the flu, shut down half the economy, force people to loose their careers, make the shots mandatory, force masks/distancing, let all but 6% .gov folks work from home and add another...what...1.2-1.8 trillion to the national debt to stop it.

 

Even if somebody had spoken that casually, nobody who understood the immune system isn't a deflector shield would have had all that much trouble understanding what was meant.

 

Sorry to hear about that. Will pray she makes a speedy recovery. When coworkers would mention getting the flu after getting a flu shot most frequently they would be told it's because there's so many different varieties variants of flu virus, & the vaccine can only cover so many of them.

 

Are you using "innate immune system" in the sense of nonspecific immune system and distinguished from adaptive immune system, or in a more broad inclusive sense?

Reading more about the innate one, it does seem to have a pretty extensive bag of tricks conserved from early historical run-ins with pathogens—and probably deserves a big +++ when it manages to hold down the fort against some novel pathogen long enough for your adaptive system to catch on and ride over the hill.

On the other hand, maybe all those same nonspecific inflammatory reactions can be the ones that end up killing you during that wait.

 

Many things in life follow a probability:

• Vaccines are not a magic shield against a virus
  • Vaccines are not always equally effective
  • Viruses are known to change
• Everyone still gets the disease
  • Vaccinated tend to have fewer symptoms
  • Unvaccinated tend to have more severe symptoms

IMHO, your body and choice. However, public areas like schools and businesses, have a right to insist on empirical, public health practices.

Bob Wilson

 

I thought all US websites were blocked in China unless you have a vpn.

 

The only one that counts, PriusChat, is not blocked.

Bob Wilson

 

When I got Covid last February, I had a senior moment and didn’t test.
By the time I did, they told me it was too late for paxlovid.
I suffered greatly, and won’t likely make that mistake again.

why do people think getting the flu shot prevents getting the flu? Is it that difficult to understand?

 

Some may simply have a sense of exasperation. for example - if there are ½ a dozen flu strains each year & the shot only deals with 3 of 'em ....
some will wrongly think, "the flu shot doesn't work" or "I got the flu anyways after getting the shot"

 

Taking Paxlovid too early is also a problem. You have to let the virus multiply so that your immune system starts to fight the beasties. Then use the Paxlovid to slow the beasties down until your immune system is ready to fight. If you start the Paxlovid too early, you see the "rebound" that people complain about.

JeffD

 

I guess I can’t relate. Get the shot , be careful and move on.

 

does that mean as long as we say niceties re China - we keep PC off their (s)hit list ? or ... will even that inquiry bring the wrath of their ... (how can i couch the name) ig-Bay - anda-Pay