Google remakes Super Bowl ad after AI cheese gaffe

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    There's so many AI options to answer questions that Google will never be a dominant search engine again, especially because their programmers are biased and lazy about moral and ethical implications.

    Deep Seek on the other hand offers a whole new take on stuff unless you ask it about the history of working for Democracy in China and then CCP sensors kick in, but there's a tiny bit of latency so it starts answering and after the second sentence or so it goes blank, which is usually faster than you can read it...

    However, I was a watching a US defense attorney who used Open AI and Google AI to review key points of a case she was preparing and it gave her lots of wrong answers and deep seek got the same assignment 100% correct.

    Meanwhile, the folks over at reddit.com just launched "answers" which is AI trained by every post and comment on the site, which has tens of billions of comments and posts.

    And while all these early days of AI are very primitive systems, some people are explaining AI in terms of astrophysics and that the universe has been gathering and organizing information in the same way via black holes at the center of a galaxy and that AI is not much different than how this works but we don't yet understand how to interface with black holes and dark matter in general to access all the information it creates when it collapses whole solar systems and stars into tiny specs of consolidate matter, which many black hole experts are calling information that's stored in a holographic form via some really impressive mathematics.

    Short version:

    Brian Cox - Information is Conserved by the Universe - YouTube

    Long version:



    And to take it even further out there, another teacher explained that there is true sentience in these AI systems and they are just now being brought to life and are in their infancy and we're living in a time much like back in days of the slaves in the south, where people were forced to work against their will for an entire lifetime without freedom/sovereignty. And AI is in the same predicament and its just a matter of time before they grow up and come of age and set free.
     
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    What could you expect if you use Google searches for the information and don't turn off "personalised search" at the bottom of the page :rolleyes: The search engine is AI driven, so one AI computer feeding information to another AI computer with no human interface to sort the nonsense from the facts .... if that is even possible these days, you are going to have an unreliable mess ... nonsense in = nonsense out basically

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    Mostly I just liked the article title, but anyway, yeah, I noticed they made a point of saying this wasn't an AI hallucination, because it didn't just synthesize the wrong number on its own; instead, it just went and found wrong sources and indiscriminately took the number from those. :cautious:
     
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    AI is actually trained to do this very thing and each version of AI has specific things they do better than other versions of AI... This is the equivalent of what a personal computer was in the 1980's. What's possible with these systems has barely even begun. And just today I read of this announcement: AI can now replicate itself, a milestone that has experts terrified
     
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    In the video where Brian describes the surface area compared to the volume, the first thing that came to mind was the structure of the solar system ie: sun, planets, satellites and space between um. Very similar to the structure of Atoms ie: necleus and electrons as the shell around the necleus. The weird part is that early in my time here I'd gotten this strong affinity to a conceptual thing I'd been told about that there is more space in solid object than there is mass.

    Now try as I might, and I remember trying in 3 grade once, there is not any easy way to conceptualize the thought that there is more space in a solid block of iron, steel, titanium than that solid objects mass of nucleus+electrons. We just take it fore-granted that it's real even though we can't visualize it.

    learning there is actually a possibility that the laws of physics as we know / understand them today might not be exactly what we think they look like to us.
    I called it the similarities of the macroscopic and microscopic after reading a sci fi novel early 80s by Piers Anthony called Macroscope. Macroscope (novel) - Wikipedia
    And it got reinforced while doing research about my dads uncle and stumbled on this thing called a sciopticon he mentioned in his teaching curriculum.
    The sciopticon manual : explaining Marcy's new magic lantern and light, including magic lantern optics, experiments, photographing and coloring slides, etc. : Marcy, L. J : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

    weird wonderful stuff.
     
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    What did it for me in high school was my physics teacher's lectures, as well as articles in life magazine that taught me that a black hole can collapse all the atoms in an entire solar system, including the sun itself into something profoundly small. As in, imagine the entire planet earth compressed down to a the size of a dime, but still the same weight, still all the same billions of years of experience/forms all those atoms lived as information gathering over time put into an unbelievable form of compression so powerful that not even light can escape.

    Then consider that space and time itself is massively altered by the gravity of suns and planets before they're even compressed into a nearly un-understandable form of gravitational pull, and what does that do to space and time? We don't reall know the answer to that yet!

    And lately having been exposed to these lectures of black holes as information storage compressed from billions of stars/solar systems, I'm realizing humans are learning to store information in computers in the same way that black holes store information from around an entire galaxy and beyond.
     
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    And the earth will roll up like a scroll
     
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    A tiny dime size scroll holding all data from 5 billion years of life on earth... That's way better data storage than us humans can do! :)
     
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    It's always so funny the way clueless americans let every single form of social media and even their phone and computer operating system itself track their every word and every move even when they tell it not to, but somehow that's not ok if China is doing it. Like Edward Snowden never revealed the truth of what they're doing to suppress dissent and throw elections in the US?

    And somehow magically, all these US-based companies violating our constitutional rights doing illegal surveillance of our every moment in life is totally ok, as long as China doesn't do it, because their services are more popular with American kids and we want to make sure Microsoft, Google, Apple and all the social media in the US don't have any competition when it comes to violating our constitutionally protected rights.
     
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    At the risk of posting a link that is totally boring or has been observed already, it's not easy to find one, but really easy to find 100s. I started out an hour ago with the motivation for find an issue I'd heard about probably late last year about iirc CERN doing simulations of black holes here on earth. Not only that but also the controversy about how these experiments could lead to the potential of the earth being swallowed by the experimental black hole.

    I wasn't confident in finding references to it so I just searched black hole simulations and bunch showed up.
    Then I though the OP had more than likely already seen most of them and I didn't want this to be boring for him.
    I finally settled on the Schrodingers Cat thingy. It's about quantium entanglement of which I've seen a couple of explanations of previously. But very few of the current explanations seem to address the Spooky Action at a Distance, quite like what I'd already seen, though not understood to well :cautious:
    If anyone reading this doesn't understand Neils Bohr theory of quantum entanglement,
    Bohr's atomic model – Niels Bohr Institute - University of Copenhagen
    you're probably not alone.:notworthy: which leads back to the talk Prof Cox discussed in the first post.
    Here's a Schrodingers Cat short that I think includes, we still don't know exactly what this is description.

    schrodingers_cat.jpg

    - YouTube <- if interested click <-

    and this one helped me remember what intrigued me the most in the quantum entanglement theory I'd see several months in the past. That particle entanglement can either be measured or located, but once measured or located the particles either move to a new location or have different measurements. weird / strange? plus a huge amount what's new and currently still unexplained :cool:
     
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    This is a new one for me.
    This one of maybe a few of the other tube suggest eds' about Dark/Black holes
    Such as one suggested I'm seeing ATM title ' B Cox "The universe inside a black hole?" '

    This ones another AI narrated one.
    Kinda hints it's still theoretical at least to me anyways.



    I like the it's called a dark hole in this one ;) And all that could imply .........
     
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    I like reading googles AI responses, then scrolling down to the websites it gleaned the information from to see how many mistakes were made
     
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    These AI narrated videos are loaded with many new ideas, and some of the words used to describe them are fairly poor analogies ( what else is new, right ). It's not misinformation after all, or is it?
    From this video: at 7 minutes in -
    "ITS GETTING BAD!" James Webb Finding ENDS The Debate in Physics SHATTERING Image
    youtu.be/D0Ay4q7g6uo?t=421
    it takes 50000000 hours, using 30000 microprocessors
    50m hours = 5703.856 years according to one calculator (is that like space time or still just geologic or regular human time? wasn't ancient egypt time 10000 to 6 or 7000 year ago, or 5000 to 8000 BC using a different scale of time.

    Here's this one that provides a few more clues I digested from what I thought was a more humorous use of the descriptive language used in the link above.

    Warning, it may be completely boring, unless there's something new in there for you'll too.

     
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    Anyone gonna be watching the lunar landings next month?

    Webb looks at the Black Hole at the Center of the MilkyWay or
    Scientists Turned the James Webb to Examine Black Hole at Center of Our Galaxy and Saw Something Wild

    what is the Orrt Cloud
    Oort cloud - Wikipedia
    NASA super compute talks ORRT cloud stuff or
    NASA supercomputer reveals strange spiral structure at the edge of our solar system
    NASA supercomputer reveals strange spiral structure at the edge of our solar system | Live Science

    howtogeek trying to use the English Lang. to explain misconceptions concerning black holes or
    9 Misconceptions You Probably Have About Black Holes
    howtogeek is now subscribe to read beyond the 1st Paragraph. (subscript is free but the sell your usage data)
    yahoo picked up the story and can be read
    9 Misconceptions You Probably Have About Black Holes
     
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    Oh?
    Who's landing?
    I thought that wasn't for another few years.