Thinking of buying the new Prime

You'll be OK.....

 

Your off brand!!!

 

I built my own rear camera washer on my 2012 Gen 3. It was easy to run a line from the rear window washer to a small jet pointed at the lens. Whenever I washed the rear window, it also cleaned the lens.

My new Gen 5 has no rear window washer, so I have a project in the works to build a cover/wiper for the lens. Whenever I put into reverse, the cover retracts, revealing the lens. Shifting it out of reverse covers the lens again. There would be a fiber pad inside the cover.

I have all the parts and the design all worked out. I 3D printed the mount for it. I just need to work out a few more details and some good weather to work on it.

 

There are two cameras if the car has that digital mirror. The rear camera on the hatch door would be the one they all have for reversing. The rearview mirror camera is at the top of the rear window.

 

You might want to look at the 2025 Camry. All Camry are hybrid and I am enjoying my XLE with the Premium Plus package to add the moonroof & safety features.

 

Looks like they had the Prius Plug-In from 2012 to 2015. The Prius Prime came out in 2017 and a new model came out last year. But there is no Prius Prime for 2025. They are calling it the Prius Plug-In again. Am i correct?
Ray

 

Either the Prius Plug-in Hybrid or Prius PHEV. Marketing is standardizing terms, moving away from Prime.

 

Here's the AI teleprompter reader showing the "off brands" Big Brother at 130 to 150k it's an ECO Friendly
Home on wheels. Gives new meaning to the phrase Land Barge. But look at all the accessories inside.
I couldn't help but start laughing at the little one you posted above 22 mpg efficiency for those long road trips.
The dialog keep me laughing all the way till the end. I wouldn't blame anyone for skipping this video as clicky a click bate as it gets.
https://youtu.be/Q74ZmF5vH_Q?t=360

This one starts at the end of the Kia Kamper and runs through the Toyota, Honda and VW brands.

 

I'm perfectly happy with the SE on my '24. The large monitor was a drawback for the higher trims -- the smaller one is more than enough distraction when driving.

 

And once upon a time, the smaller wheels were 15", lol.

Also, check out the vehicle in @ETC(SS)'s post #21, a relatively massive cargo van, the Ford Transit I think, and IIRC it's got 17" rims, with a sensible sidewall depth.

 

To add to the decision process, if you are looking for government rebates ensure the dealership participates. Having just gone through this I was surprised by the high number of dealerships that outright didn't participate, didn't 'know what i was talking about, never heard of such a thing" etc. From what I gather, participating requires interacting w/the IRS (which is basically registering the sale itself in a dedicated database.) and dealers don't want to do anything w/the IRS that isn't absolutely required by law - and - vehicle are selling anyway w/o the credit. We also have new leadership where this opportunity may not live much longer.

 

I had a 2018 Prius Prime and really liked it -- I was looking to get a new Prius Prime, and then discovered that the charging time has gone from ~5 hours to ~11 hours for perhaps 10% more electric mileage. Ouch!

Then finding out that the rebates are gone now has really lowered my interest (including the long wait time to get one).

 

Charging rate is the same - it's double the charging time for double the capacity and double the range.

I don't know what your "10%" is referring to.

 

You may have already made your decision, but here is my 2 cents. I just bought a 2024 XSE. After fuller understanding of what the Limited has, the only things that might have made me buy that instead are the two separate seat settings, the power liftgate, and the advanced parking. All the XSE's I looked at at various dealers had the larger info 9.2. inch info screen as an extra (plus a lot of other crap like door edge guards and all weather mats and "delivery" which is not the destination charge, to increase MSPR by about $2500 to "toyota srp"). Never use rear seats, so that not important, sound system is fine, don't need solar panel roof. If you can afford the extra $4k or so it would be nice, but for me it wasn't worth it.

In upstate NY, sticker was $39,232 and dealer gave it to me for $37,697 before taxes, fees and NY $500 rebate.

 

Our 2018 Prius Prime would get about 35 miles per a charge; I have read that the new Prius Primes get about 40-42 miles per a charge, I think I was told. I guessed that to be about 10%, but it's more like 20%. But a far cry from doubling the range, which should be around 70 miles per a full charge.

 

It is a 60% to 80% increase in range from the gen4(25 miles) to gen5(40 to 45 miles depending on trim). Based on your gen4 range, you'll get 56 to 63 miles in a gen5.

While the capacity doubled, and thus the charging time, the car's efficiency in EV mode dropped some.

 

Most of the posts I see for the Gen5 say 39 miles on a charge. I was quoted 35 miles for the 2018 Prime (that's gen4, I think). In practice, I get from 30-37 miles, with the worst being in the winter months and the best being in the spring/fall when I don't need to use A/C (or heat).

So, yes, if the mileage actually doubles or close to it, I don't mind a longer charge time. I'm surprised they said 25 for a gen4 - the worst we've ever had has been about 27 miles.

Oh, and I'm talking about what the car claims it can travel after a full charge, not the actual miles that I get.

But you encourage me -- perhaps I will try a Prime again.

 

The EV ranges I cited for the Primes were the EPA figures. Advertising can't use higher.

The gen5 has better performance. That can make it more enticing to drive it in a non-efficient manner. That and new looks have also attracted more buyers less interested in driving for efficiency. Also can't discount the range prediction on the dash being calculated differently between the gens. Then some here went to a wider tire because of the uncommon factory sizes, that will reduce efficiency.

If the EV miles you drive per day stay the same, the charge time won't change much.