Fumoto oil drain valve on gen5

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  1. Templeton

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    I don't have my gen5 yet, but should get it soon. How is the clearance under the oil pan and the drain plug? Any thoughts or concerns about sufficient vertical space to install a fumoto valve without a big risk of it getting hit while driving?
     
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    Here's youtube video on changing the Gen5 Prius Prime oil and filter. You might be able to see the space around the oil drain plug and help make a determination with this.
     
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    The least expensive Fumoto oil drain valve is $33. That buys 165 grain plug gaskets on Amazon.

    You aren't afraid a bit of debris could knock the valve open?
     
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    The valve actually has two locks (a well designed brass over center lock, plus a secondary plastic clip), so it getting accidentally knocked open is very unlikely. But the valve does stick out a few mm more than the stock plug, so there is a non zero chance of the whole thing getting hit by some very big unexpected road debris.

    I kind of like the valves (I have one on my rav4P), as you can drain the oil waste directly into a big bottle, no need even for a catch basin (just a small cup to catch the oil filter drips). But if anyone has some good arguments for, or against, I am definitely open minded.
     
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    Thanks, looks like plenty of clearance for the smaller valves.
     
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    That's neat.
     
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    I am interested in a magnetic drain plug though. I believe our cars can benefit from that. I installed one on our VW Golf. Has anyone used it on the Prius 5?
     
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    Not needed. If it were, Toyota would include magnets in drain pans as they do with transmissions.
     
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    I have used the Fumoto drain valve on several cars. Several years ago, I went with the Valvomax drain valve on new vehicles. It’s a better design in my opinion. One issue with these drain valves is that they protrude into the oil pan and thus there is always some oil at the bottom of the pan that won’t drain unless you remove the drain valve which defeats the purpose.

    Several years ago I purchased an oil extractor for my vehicles. I have used that twice now on my 2024 Prime. Since I’m at the access for the oil filter, I remove the OEM drain plug. Typically get about 3 -4 ounces of oil draining into my drain pan but no gusher like you get with a full pan drain.

    Cheers
     
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    MAgnetic drain plugs are totally unnecessary in modern cars.
    I find the fumoto unnecessary as well. It's so easy as is.
    YMMV
     
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    Hey there, I have mine installed during my first oil change (3k miles), I am now currently sitting at 30k miles with probably 8 oil changes done during the time with the fumoto valve, you have more than enough clearance and the locking plastic they give you locks it nice and tight, no room for play. I know alot of people are worried about the “paper-like” gasket but I can assure you there are no leaks and they themselves confirmed that it will last a VERY long time. Keep in mind, it drains much slower than the traditional drain plug, but I like the fact that it creates virtually no messes when changing oil. Cheers!
     
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    Not from what I saw, here is a guy who belongs to a Society of Tribologists and Lubrication Engineers Certified Lubrication Specialist and Oil Monitoring Analyst and also worked for Joe Gibbs Racing for 12 years as their lubricant specialist. He changed his daughter's Corolla engine at 500 miles then send the used oil to a lab and found a lot of debris in the oil. Here is the video he posted in Youtube with over 1 million views:

    AVOID the ONE MISTAKE Almost EVERYONE Makes With A Brand New Car
     
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    That is a good video and I agree with it, but he is not saying that folks need magnetic drain plugs, he is more saying that owners should do the initial oil change a lot earlier than 10k miles.
     
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    Meh, it is still a minority opinion.

    Yes, during break-in, there will be a lot of wear particles, but that will keep happening until 10,000 miles or even longer, not just the first 500 miles.

    All that said, I do 5,000-mile oil changes, including the first one.

    And if this were an issue, Toyota would know about it. No one knows engines better than they do.
     
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    Toyota recommends 10,000 miles for the first oil change.
     
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    Correct, in fact, since I had the free two-year maintenance, my odometer was at around 9,000 miles in the first oil change at the one-year mark—now that I remember.

    After the free service expired, I have buying the AdvantageCare package and doing biannual changes (about every 4,500 miles).

    I have still been getting around 70 mpg in the HEV mode. My DTE after fill-up yesterday was 729 miles. The actual HEV range would be around 800 miles.

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    Hey there, I strongly disagree with the manual on this one and I also think manufacturers do this to build costly repair bill later on to make even more money. First oil changes should always be done under 3000 and it’s very very important since that’s where you will find the most amount of metal shavings, if the first service gets dragged, it can potentially cause permanently Long term damage to your engine. Cheers!
     
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    I drove my Prius Prime over 2000 miles on the first tank of gas. The engine doesn’t run that much especially around home, plugged in at night. And even driving in hybrid mode it probably averages running about 50% of the time. I trust the Toyota engineers service recommendations are just fine.
     
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    Whatever. Dork out and change your oil every 500 miles if you really want to extend the life.
    The Prius isn't a race car either.

    This thread was about the fumoto drain plug, which I say is unnecessary but people can do what they want
     
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    I have a fumoto on another toyota.

    No, they are not necessary, but they sure are handy. For example, when l do oil changes, l don't even need to use an oil catch basin. Instead, l just attach a short tube to the oil valve and l can drain the old oil directly into a plastic bottle. Saves a lot of time on the job, and a lot of time on the clean up.
     
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