We have a 2015 V and never got the recall completed

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  1. gonegreener

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    Hybrid System may shut down and cause stall. OEM code 20TA10 has anyone had this done and had a problem within 4000 miles? I ask because our friend had it done to his 15 V and about 4000 miles later had a computer problem that cost him out of pocket $ 2750.00 So we have been leary of getting it done since it runs great. Any input would be appreciated thanks What is it that Toyota actually does for this recall?
     
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    Depends which tsb you are talking about. The inverter had a software update everyone was encouraged to get to avoid sudden failures. However many got that update and still had a sudden inverter fail which stranded them.

    IF that was the problem, Toyota Corp would have covered the repair free.

    BUT some owners have had the inverter failure and paid the dealer for the repair. The dealer rep you get does not always know about this 15 year extended warranty.

    Again it depends exactly what the repair was.

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    20TA10 is the recall notice we received in the mail about a year ago. We were out of state and never got it done. Just wondering if its worthwhile to have it done or if it will actually cause a problem.
     
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    1 Unrepaired Recallsassociated with this VIN
    Jun 24,2020
    Manufacturer Recall Number20TA10
    NHTSA Recall Number20V369
    Recall StatusRecall Incomplete
    SummaryThe involved vehicles were designed to enter a failsafe driving mode in response to certain hybrid system faults. Toyota has found that in rare situations, the vehicle may not enter a failsafe driving mode as intended.

    Safety RiskIf this occurs, the vehicle could lose power and stall. While power steering and braking would remain operational, a vehicle stall while driving at higher speeds could increase the risk of a crash.

    RemedyAny authorized Toyota dealer will update the software for the hybrid system performed FREE OF CHARGE. For customer satisfaction, if the vehicle has experienced an inverter failure with certain hybrid system faults related to this condition, the inverter assembly will be repaired or replaced FREE OF CHARGE
     
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    Why would you choose not to get it done?
     
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    It is the inverter fail issue and repairs are still available free - if you know to ask.
     
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    Because if this came out in 2020 and we have had no problems with it, we have 75k miles and it states that not just any tech they have can do it. Just thinking if it has not failed yet it probably wont...
     
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    Has there been any issues with a vehicle after they reprogram? Anyone still not get this done? Just thinking if not broken don't fix it mentality..
     
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    Ok, I took it in this morning and picked up the prius v just now after they said it was ready. they reprogramed the PWR MgMT ECU
     
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    Plenty of fails after reprogramming.
     
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    At the time, circa 2018, that was my concern. Whatever heat cycle damage may have been done would not be rectified by a firmware reflash. And performance could be programmatically degraded by the reflash. Thankfully, no downside to report.
     
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    My Failed after reprogramming at 167,000.......... 1100 miles from home.

    It will fail.....
     
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    It can fail at any time....... especially after 100,000miles. They could possible jack with you if it hasn't been updated...when it fails...........
    Your thinking on this is flawed.................................
     
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    Since the quoted post (#7), the poster has had (#9) the firmware update.

    If the inverter fails and they try to jack with you, just point them at the right customer service program docs, which clearly cover the failure for 20 years and unlimited mileage.

    So, that means after a failure, you can get the car fixed. It doesn't change that it sucks to have the car fail while you're driving it. Getting it fixed for free comes after the sucky part.

    The idea behind the later power management control ECU reflash was to make the sucky part suck less. The intent is for the car to respond to the failure by going into a limp mode and you can still sort of drive your way out of traffic. Even without that reflash, that's what'll usually happen, but without the reflash, there's still a chance it responds to the failure by shutting the hybrid system OFF. In traffic, that sucks more.
     
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    Had the firmware update at about 250k and the failure at 270k. They replaced the inverter converter assembly free of charge
     
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    I haven't updated mine for the same reason. My 2015 has 201,000 miles on it and I'm afraid to change something that has worked well for a long time. If they cover it unlimited miles, maybe it's worth doing.
     
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    The inverter in your 2015 at this moment is 201,000 miles closer to failing than it was when it rolled off the line. No update installed at this late date will undo any of that past usage.

    There were two updates to the firmware. The update that came with recall F0R was meant to fix the conditions tending to crystallize the solder, and the later update with recall J0V is to avoid having the hybrid system shut completely off if/when the inverter does fail.

    It's possible you could have had one done and not the other. For example, if the F0R update was done 100,000 miles ago, then your inverter in theory might be only 101,000 miles closer to failing than it was at the factory.

    Still, the later update is worthwhile because it affects what can happen if/when the inverter does fail. It is nice knowing Toyota will replace it for free if it fails, but you could still be on the road when it happens and have to deal with that. It is better to have the car go into limp mode so you can get out of traffic. But if the J0V update hasn't been done, there's a chance the hybrid system just suddenly turns off, and that could suck.
     
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    Does anyone have pics of the IPM failed part and an analysis of why